John Muir - Lanarkshire

[loobylooayr]

Hi Sara,
I also have an ancestor from Lanarkshire with the surname Muir. Sometimes the name is recorded as Mair.

Looby

Looby,
How interesting! I wouldn't have thought of that variation since it doesn't sound near Muir.. I'll have to remember that when I get to looking!

Sara

I think with the Scottish accents at that time the two names Muir and Mair could be confused. It depended on the accent of who pronounced them and how the literate person who wrote the name down perceived it. My ancestor and her family could not write, everything they signed was with a cross - X  . I had a similar situation when researching my McLean branch of my tree - in that case McLung was the variant

Looby

[sancti]

Hi Sara

Muir, Mure, Moor and Moore are common names in Scotland. I assume you are following a child of Janet Muir but if you don't have Janet's death certificate then you can't confirm her parents names and John may not actually be her father's name.

Which child of Janet's are you descended from and who did Janet marry?

You may get a clue about her parents through the naming tradition

[Avance0306]

Hi Sara,
I also have an ancestor from Lanarkshire with the surname Muir. Sometimes the name is recorded as Mair.

Looby :)

Looby,
How interesting! I wouldn't have thought of that variation since it doesn't sound near Muir.. I'll have to remember that when I get to looking!

Sara

I think with the Scottish accents at that time the two names Muir and Mair could be confused. It depended on the accent of who pronounced them and how the literate person who wrote the name down perceived it. My ancestor and her family could not write, everything they signed was with a cross - X  ;D. I had a similar situation when researching my McLean branch of my tree - in that case McLung was the variant :)

Looby :)

Interestingly enough - I have a John McLean born abt 1800(?) dundonald Ayrshire who married Margaret pettigrew in 1818 (have the marriage record); I've not found the birth or death record for him though...

[Avance0306]

Hi Sara

Muir, Mure, Moor and Moore are common names in Scotland. I assume you are following a child of Janet Muir but if you don't have Janet's death certificate then you can't confirm her parents names and John may not actually be her father's name.

Which child of Janet's are you descended from and who did Janet marry?

You may get a clue about her parents through the naming tradition

Sancti,
I have the birth record for Janet Muir b 1745 to John Muir and Janet Mure; she married Richard Wallace - I've not found the marriage record for them but I have their son's birth record. Richard Wallace b 1772 in Carnwath.
Richard Wallace married Janet McKay and I have their marriage record.
Like I mentioned previously.. I've got a few walls to knock holes in.

Sara

[sancti]

If Richard Wallace died after 1855 his death record will confirm his parents names as Richard Wallace and Janet Muir.
Unfortunately there is nothing to confirm that the baptism record you found for Janet Muir is the correct one.

[Skoosh]

Muir/Mair, both very old names. Black, in his surnames, gives a different origin for each.

Skoosh.

[Avance0306]

Still not getting anywhere with John Muir.
I've done my best to travel backwards and to put pieces where they go and I still can't find anything on John Muir, Janet "Mure", their daughter Janet Muir and her husband Richard Wallace.
It is getting frustrating.

I have the birth record for Janet Muir that states her father was John Muir, her mother was Janet "Mure". Record states birth in Carnwath, Lanarkshire in 1745.
Based off that, I've guesstimated the parents birth years as 1725. I have not found anything yet that seems feasible for either of the parents.

I have the birth record for Richard Wallace, son of the above Janet Muir and Richard Wallace. Record states parents as Richard Wallace and Janet Muir 1772 Carnwath, Lanarkshire.

I've not found a marriage record for Janet Muir and Richard Wallace.
I've not found a birth record for Richard Wallace.

I have the marriage record for the son Richard Wallace and Janet McKay (macky). Record states married 1797 Carstairs, Lanarkshire.
I have the birth, marriage and death record of their child, Mary Wallace.
So you see, I have followed what the records are giving me. 
I don't have enough credits to ScotlandsPeople to keep guessing and I'm getting frustrated, to say the least.

[sancti]

Sara, you don't have anything to confirm that you are following the correct parents for Janet Muir.

Mary Wallace's death record will give her parents as Richard Wallace and Janet McKay

Do you have Richard Wallace's death record?

[Avance0306]

Sara, you don't have anything to confirm that you are following the correct parents for Janet Muir.

Mary Wallace's death record will give her parents as Richard Wallace and Janet McKay

Do you have Richard Wallace's death record?

Richard Wallace's death record:
Died 17 Jun 1859 Carstairs; Richard Wallace (Farmer) deceased; Janet Wallace, maiden name Muir, Deceased. Informant was his son Richard Wallace.