Mauritius -British Army, East India. PATRICK TIMMINS b1811

[Fern68]

I am looking for any information on my g/x3 grandfather Patrick Timmins who served in the British Army, East India in Mauritius around the 1830's. He was born in Dublin Ireland, c.1811.
He was married to Ann, nee Mullaly, they had 3 children, born Ireland but who also lived in Mauritius, Margaret, born 1836, Ann, born 1838 and Catherine (Kate) born 1843. There was also a son, Johannes, born 1833 in Hampshire, England but I can find no other record of him.
Ann his wife remarried (Isaac Taylor) in 1848 in Portsea,Plymouth, England .
I can find no death record of Patrick so any info. on his whereabouts at the time would be fantastic.

[ShaunJ]

This could be daughter Ann's army birth record. Same regiment as Isaac Taylor:

Anne Timmons
Mauritius 1839 
12th Regiment
Volume 955 page 46

[km1971]

The 12th Foot were in Mauritius from 1837 to 1848.

The service companies were in Gibraltar in 1833, but the Depot may have been in Hampshire, as the regiment was re-united in 1834 in Winchester.

Ken

[Fern68]

Thanks for the replies. Since I posted my original message I have been able to update my records on Patrick & Ann. Ann snr. death record lists her father as Tom Murphy yet on Ann & Isaac's marriage record he is listed as Walter Mullally.
Their first born Joannes, born Sept.1833, Gosport RC,Hampshire England, died October 1834 in England.
Their  daughters Margaret, 1836 Dublin Ireland,died 1899 in Australia,
Ann, born 1839, Mauritius,died 1877 in Auckland,New Zealand
Catherine (Kate) born 1843, West Indies, died September 1880, in Auckland,New Zealand.
No information yet on what happened to Patrick Timmins, although since wife Ann married Isaac Taylor in 1848 he obviously had died, but where & when.?

[km1971]

Catherine (Kate) born 1843, West Indies, died September 1880, in Auckland,New Zealand.

There is no record of the 12th Foot serving in the West Indies. You will need to research the muster books in Kew - they are not online - starting at a date you have a good idea he was in the 12th. Ann's birth is recorded in the regimental BMDs so you can order a certificate to confirm the regiment. You can then work forwards to 1843 for Kate's birth. My guess is that East and West Indies have become confused. Then forward again until you find him dying. Each book covers 12 monthly musters and will tell you where he was, and when (if ever) he transferred to a regiment that did serve in the West Indies.

I cannot see Kate's birth recorded on the regimental BMDs. So where does this information come from?

The 12th where in NSW and NZ in the 1850s which explains why at least two children stayed there. The regiment was in Portsmouth at the time of the re-marriage. so I think we have the right regiment.

Ken

[Fern68]

Catherine (Kate) born 1843, West Indies, died September 1880, in Auckland,New Zealand.

There is no record of the 12th Foot serving in the West Indies. You will need to research the muster books in Kew - they are not online - starting at a date you have a good idea he was in the 12th. Ann's birth is recorded in the regimental BMDs so you can order a certificate to confirm the regiment. You can then work forwards to 1843 for Kate's birth. My guess is that East and West Indies have become confused. Then forward again until you find him dying. Each book covers 12 monthly musters and will tell you where he was, and when (if ever) he transferred to a regiment that did serve in the West Indies.

I cannot see Kate's birth recorded on the regimental BMDs. So where does this information come from?

The 12th where in NSW and NZ in the 1850s which explains why at least two children stayed there. The regiment was in Portsmouth at the time of the re-marriage. so I think we have the right regiment.

Ken

I don't believe Patrick was in New Zealand. Death records of Ann & Catherine state they were born in Mauritius.
 Mother Ann's 2nd marriage to Isaac Taylor resulted in them coming to New Zealand. Isaac joined the Royal New Zealand Fencibles & sailed with the family on the ship 'Inchinnan' arriving in Auckland 1852.
I have Isaac's British army records, there is no doubting he was in the 12th foot,   (1ST BN 12TH REGT OF FOOT).
I have a long way to come to search the muster books,(seeing they are not online.)

[ShaunJ]

I think the confusion about Catherine's birthplace probably stems from the 1851 census (York Street, Leicester) for Isaac Taylor & family which shows both Ann & Catherine as born "W. Indies".