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Birth look up please?!
« on: Monday 09 September 13 19:41 BST (UK) »
Can someone please look up a birth for me?

Mary Ann Carroll, parents Owen Carroll & Margaret Carr. 1881 census at 26 Foundry Lane, Dundee has her birth to be around 1877 & born in Dundee. Parents are down as both born in Glasgow, Lanark.

I've looked on SP, used all my credits and still can't find her or a marriage cert for parents  ???
Please & thank you! ;D
Scotland: Wynne/Wynn, McCormack, Mudie, Drummond, Carroll, Grimley

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Re: Birth look up please?!
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 September 13 20:13 BST (UK) »
SP is showing one match to that profile between 1876-1878

Mary Carroll - Angus - 1876-1878
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Birth look up please?!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 September 13 20:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carole, I had tried that one but the parents are listed as Thomas & Eliza Carroll.
Scotland: Wynne/Wynn, McCormack, Mudie, Drummond, Carroll, Grimley

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Re: Birth look up please?!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 September 13 21:45 BST (UK) »
Why not just put the birth aside for the moment and look for the parents' marriage? I see that there was a son Francis, aged 18, and sons James, 12, and Edward, 10, the last two born in Dundee. If you get one of their birth certificates it should tell you the date and place of their parents' marriage.

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Re: Birth look up please?!
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 September 13 21:56 BST (UK) »
Can't help at the moment with your original question but you should look into the numerous mentions of both Owen Carroll and Margaret Carr or Carroll amongst the Tayside section on britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ... a complicated family perhaps. 

Also search under 'Mary Carroll' ... September 1887 ... I think this is your 11 year old Mary Ann? brought before the Court under the Industrial Schools act?

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 September 13 22:35 BST (UK) »
The 1881 shows spelling as Carrol so I checked SP and there is a birth in Angus for a Mary Carrol in 1876
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 September 13 22:37 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Forfarian on Monday 09 September 13 21:45 BST (UK)
Why not just put the birth aside for the moment and look for the parents' marriage? I see that there was a son Francis, aged 18, and sons James, 12, and Edward, 10, the last two born in Dundee. If you get one of their birth certificates it should tell you the date and place of their parents' marriage.



I tried the other children but nothing, I can't find these births either? I found two James Carrolls but not the correct parents?!
Scotland: Wynne/Wynn, McCormack, Mudie, Drummond, Carroll, Grimley

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 September 13 22:39 BST (UK) »
Have you seen my reply above
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 September 13 22:40 BST (UK) »
Quote from: CaroleW on Monday 09 September 13 22:35 BST (UK)
The 1881 shows spelling as Carrol so I checked SP and there is a birth in Angus for a Mary Carrol in 1876

Thanks for that, have just done this one. The mother is Ann Carroll & no father? I'm lost!
Scotland: Wynne/Wynn, McCormack, Mudie, Drummond, Carroll, Grimley
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