burial records in Walsall England

[carol8353]

Weste

In the very first post the OP said " They went to St. Mary's church and I think lived on Willows Rd. about 1 1/5 miles from the church.  I haven't been able to find anything"

Does that help to narrow the church/area down?

If we could find them in a Kelly's or an Electoral Roll in Willow Road that would be fab 

Carol

Ahaha St Mary's is Catholic......so she wouldn't be able to divorce!

[dionysus]

The obvious church is St Mary's the Mount, Glebe Street, which is no great distance from Willows Road.  It also has the advantage of still being active, so you might get some guidance from there.

[dickensfan56]

I wrote to St. Mary's once and left a phone message there but received no reply.  Of course, I was looking for Eileen Haydon then.  Any record or where the Pinches/Haydon marriage took place?

[dickensfan56]

I assume no one found a death record on Eileen Haydon?  I couldn't find any immigration or passport records either.  I know she entered as Eileen Haydon because I contacted immigration once, long ago and they confirmed her entry.  They did not give me the year, however.

[acorngen]

After all that work by many people not one person has suggested that she may well have been born in Scotland or Ireland and therefore wouldnt appear on the BDM lists fr England and Wales.  No one has considered that this person may have been adopted into the family and this is why there is no birth under the details given.  Then of course they are working with an oral history that may well be wrong as well.

Rob

[jim1]

I think you'll find Rob we've considered everything.
Because of the complexity we have to work on the most likely scenarios.
Oral history is all we have & it all centres around Walsall.
If the information we have doesn't pan out then we will have broaden the search.
We need to see what we can glean from the 3 certs. which is the way to go at present.

[acorngen]

Jim I am not disagreeing with you but the fact is no one mentioned anything of that sort.  I also have ancestors from Walsall, birth given there no sign of the family in the 51 census even though one was born there in 48 and no birth cert found in England.  Did some digging in Ireland and voila there was the birth.  For some reason the father was happier to say he was from Black Country than Ireland. 

My point however was not a criticism it was more a point of teaching someone who seems to be a newbie that there are lots of other things to consider.  This is the one negative of this site.  Many who post are experienced researchers and forget to explain in detail everything for the beginner.
Rob

[dickensfan56]

I did do global searches on the many ancestry sites I used which even brought up Eileen Haydons in Canada and the US.  There were no exact matches for her (or James/Gertrude Haydon) in any of those searches that fit the correct time frame.

I have considered that none of what I thought I knew might be correct about her life in England.  I only have pictures after she left there.  She did tell me about her street, house and the church but they were rather general descriptions.

The similarities in the names and dates pertaining to the Pinches are compelling.  If I do get to the point of contacting any of the descendants I think I should start with the grandchildren and find out if they know anything.  I'm afraid what it might do to the son if this is true.  If anyone has an address on either of them, please send me a PM.  Thank you again.

[dickensfan56]

I forgot to mention that I did send a request to the GRO for her passport information and I emailed two priests in Walsall.  Only one replied that he had nothing.