William Murphy 1 September 1876

[ginny44]

Hello

I wonder if anybody could help me trace my great grand uncle, who is driving me mad, as he appears to disappear.  He was born in Liverpool on the 1 September 1876.  I have found his baptism record, where he was baptized in St Patrick church.  His baptism record has his father as  William Murphy and his mother as Mary Jane Burgess, but her name was Mary Jane Burden.  I have found him on the 1881 and 1891 census as living with his grandparents, Frank and Ann Murphy.  Had he died in Liverpool he would have had a catholic burial and it would have been recorded, but I can't find it, and had he married and stayed in the same area, again it would have been in the same Parish.  However, presuming he may have moved away and got married, surely his marriage banns would show up, but he seems to have disappeared without trace.  I would be grateful if anybody could take a look for me to see if they can find anything about him please.  Thank you.

[DORAN54]

hi  are you sure that its your William with grandparents on census I suppose you know for sure they are his grandparents do you?  as looking through census's I came across  a family with same names etc which may be worth looking at  1891 census piece 2920 folio 113 page 10  this family also on 1881  . I could be wrong of course

[ginny44]

Hi

Yes I am certain it's him as he is with my great great granddad.  Thank you.

[DORAN54]

that's good ,can you give us the census ref that you have him on  and maybe we can go from that info 

[rosie99]

What was his and his fathers occupation

Rosie

[DORAN54]

was frank a bus driver and did William have a brother henry  there with him?

if i'm looking at the right one which I think I am his grandparents were from wexford Ireland so one of those children on the 1861 census  must be his parent

[DORAN54]

parents marriage which you may already have
William murphy born 1857 age 21 married mary jane burden 22 sept 1876 brides father Alfred nash? grooms father frank murphy.ref 283  THM/3/2

[DORAN54]

a  possible match William murphy  1901

1901 census piece 3947 folio 162 page 3

[ginny44]

Hi

I'm sorry I don't understand the census piece etc, could you tell me how to search what you have found please. Yes, everything you have found is all correct about my family.  I would be curious to see the prison one and the 1911 one too.

Thank you so much for your help, he really is driving me dotty.

Best wishes