August Bartels - Seaman

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hi again...

Was no problem to help. My first attempt to research in Germany so it was a learning experience.

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The following link seems to be the easiest way for a Brisbane-ite to view an LDS microfilm...

https://www.gsq.org.au/index.php/services/lds-films

Loaning the microfilm(s) is free but shipping it/them from Utah to Brisbane costs A$7.75 per microfilm. You can do the ordering from the microfilms link I gave in my previous reply. Film no.69335 for Carl and Marianna's wedding (heiraten) and film no.69336 for August's baptism (taufen).

Please remember that I've no proof at all that the marriage or birth(s) happened in Malchow. I'm just making an assumption because of the 1867 census. If the assumption is wrong you'll be the one out of pocket and none the wiser.

And another warning although you most likely already know. The parish registers won't be written using our Latin symbols (Aa Bb Cc etc) but something called the Germanic script, of which there are three versions. You'd do well to read up on it before you try deciphering the parish registers.

And assume the microfilm-viewer won't save images to a thumb drive so take a camera and a magnifying glass when you go to view the microfilm. Take photos of every page you can for later reference. And when someone is watching you take out the magnifying glass and pretend to inspect the register. It makes people think you know what you're doing (works for me)

All the best
Beg

[Craigellachie19]

I love your sense of humour!  Maybe I should get a pipe and a Sherlock hat while I'm at it.
I am off to the National Archives in Brisbane on Saturday for some details on August Barteks in Australia. At least their microfiche machines are hooked up to printers. Wish me luck!
Thanks again Beg. PS. Where in the world are you?
Thanks again
Anne

[Beg Clonrode...]

Where in the world are you?

East coast of the North Island, NZ.

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Good luck at the Archives.

Half joking about the magnifying glass but I reckon it's a necessity when looking at those old parish registers. Some of the clergymen had shocking handwriting. Combined with the fact that the registers were microfilmed sixty-plus years ago and you need every bit of help you can get.

All the best
Beg

[majm]

Family stories were that he had 'jumped ship' so I hadn't looked for naturalisation papers as I didn't think he would have applied.  Another story was also that he hid out during WW1 so that he wasn't interred. 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60076345 Townsville Daily 7 August 1915  August Bartels giving evidence for the Defendant, in a court case where the police case was about the defendant’s use of seditious language.   Part of the  report has the Police Prosecutor stating that August was born in Germany and that he was not working.  Perhaps that is the origin of the family story that he hid out during WWI stems from the result of that case (the defendant was convicted).   

Cheers,  JM

[whiteout7]

August Bartels is on this list too "Cooktown Hospital admission registers" http://www.judywebster.com.au/cooktown.html
"Note the provision for ship of arrival, place of residence, marital status, and father's present residence"
Seems to be about $20 plus postage (owch)

[Craigellachie19]

Thank you Whiteout 7.  Yes I had seen that and written to Judy Webster.  He is apparently on the list twice.  She said just because there is provision for the name of the ship etc, it may be that those details are actually not listed, so I am yet to send both fees off for 2 searches until I exhaust other avenues.

Anne

[majm]

August Bartels is on this list too "Cooktown Hospital admission registers" http://www.judywebster.com.au/cooktown.html
"Note the provision for ship of arrival, place of residence, marital status, and father's present residence"
Seems to be about $20 plus postage (owch)

I wonder if there's any RChatters who may be willing to look up the Qld State Archives for you.  Afterall, the link includes " have indexed all surviving Cooktown Hospital admission registers from the earliest (1884) up to 25 Dec 1901. The registers (at Qld State Archives) have space for these details (which, if supplied by the patient, may be more accurate than those on a death certificate)"

I am not Qld centric, so I have no real understanding of what to expect or of how Qld Archives functions, but I do would expect that there's several Qld based RChatters who frequent those Qld Archives.

Have you considered making a separate post on the Aussie Board, asking for that type of look up?

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/About/Pages/ContactQSA.aspx   

State Archives for Qld .... at Runcorn.


RChat Aussie Board : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=165.0

Fingers crossed

Cheers,  JM

[Craigellachie19]

Hi JM. Thanks for your reply. I will try to get to the Qld State Archives. They are a fair way from me and they don't open of an evening and only one Saturday per month but will be worth a trip. Thanks again
Anne