August Bartels - Seaman

[Craigellachie2019]

I am trying to track the movements of my Great Grandfather August Bartels - born in Germany in the 1860's - a merchant seaman - and have been given information of an 'August Bartels' who was on the schooner Mary Agatha which founded and the crew were picked up by the Ship Rangitikei. This was reported in the Hawkes Bay Poverty Bay Newspaper May 23 1883.  It is said only the captain who was married, was going to try to return home - the other men deciding to try their luck in New Zealand.  If this particular August Bartels is my Great Grandfather, he married in Cooktown, Queensland in 1895.  I have had no luck in trying to find him on a ship coming from New Zealand to Australia and wondered if there is any other information I haen't been able to access so far here in Australia.  I haven't been able to track down any information on the Mary Agatha either to see where it came from before foundering - nor a crew list.
Thank you
Anne

[spades]

Hi Anne,

The inquiry into the loss of the Mary Agatha was reported in the Manawatu Standard, which gave his name as Augustus BARTELS.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vz4/

The Daily Telegraph of 18 May 1883 (and other newspapers) reported the voyage of the Mary Agatha, her cargo and route.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vz6/

Spades

[spades]

There is this interesting possibility...

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=89484407

[spades]

It looks like there might be several namesakes out there.

Can you tell us anything else about your August BARTELS: do you know where and when he died, names of any children, his parents, his later life, etc?

Edit: See this topic:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=658943.0

[Craigellachie2019]

Thank you for those articles. It gives me a bit more information.  My August or Augustus married in Cooktown, had numerous children and died in Brisbane, Queensland Australia.  Details on his marriage say his father was Charles Bartels and his mother Miyarna Pralow and that he was born in Rostock Germany.  His death age and marriage age differ so all I can gather is he was born sometime in the 1860's - but haven't found a birth, nor records of his parents.  As I haven't been able to get any further in that regard, I thought if I could track down this particular Augustus' voyage, I may find a starting point if it is actually him.
Anne

[majm]

May I butt in please...

On his QLD death cert ... What answer is given for :How Long in the Colonies/states ...  and

Have you looked for any Naturalisation papers as these name the arrival ship  as well as date and place of birth .. and these are in his own hand ...

Fingers crossed...

Cheers JM

[Craigellachie2019]

Hi, I haven't got his death certificate.  I didn't realise that sort of information may be on it.  He died away from his family so I am not sure any information on his death certificate would be correct.

Family stories were that he had 'jumped ship' so I hadn't looked for naturalisation papers as I didn't think he would have applied.  Another story was also that he hid out during WW1 so that he wasn't interred. 

Knowing he married in Cooktown in 1895 and was born sometime in the 1860's, I have searched passenger and immigration records and found nothing. 
Anne

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hello...

I don't know if this relevant but it mentions Pralow, Burtels and Rostock. Going by the age it may be Augustus' mother. Or not.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MVY6-2WP

If you read line 1 it might be translated as "? Burtels formerly Pralow". Maybe not.

Regards
Beg

[majm]

If you have found him on any electoral roll then he had been naturalised .... and yes QLD certs are quite informative ... And if the informant knew then HOW LONG is a handy question ...

If not on an electoral roll it was not always  compulsory to enrol ...


Cheers JM