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[trish1120]

Excellent work Ladyhawke

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks Trish 

Sarah is named Helen on the 1891 census

1891 RG12; Piece: 774; Folio: 123
8 Royal Parade Eastbourne Sussex
Head Elizabeth Chomarat 62 Lodging House Keeper
Helen Hook age 20 (1871) Alderney Channel Islands Domestic Servant

[trish1120]

1861 Census
3 Morris's Lane,
Devizes, Wiltshire
RG9/1293/30/13
Mary PART, 49, Head, Widow, Dress and Straw Bonnet Maker, born Abingdon, Berkshire
ANNE M, 23, Daug, Unm, Dressmaker, born Cricklade, Wiltshire
Helena, 13, Daug, Dressmaker, born Meysey Hampton, Gloucestershire
Anna, 10, Daug, Scholar, born Meysey Hampton
Charles I, 9, Son, Scholar, born Cricklade, Wiltshire




1851 Census
Maiseyhampton, Gloucestershire
HO107/1968/604/5
Mary PART, 39, Head, Mar, Post Mistress, born Abingdon, Berkshire
William, 14, Son
ANN MARY, 13, Daug
Henry, 12, Son
Elizabeth, 10, Daug
Emily Jane, 9, Daug
Frederick, 7, Son
John, 5, Son
Helena, 3, Daug
Anna, 8mths, Daug
All Children except Helena/Anna born Cricklade, Wiltshire.

1851 Census Joseph PART age 47, born c 1804 Maisey Hampton, Gloucestershire, Mar, Occp Postman, is Lodging with the Boultons in Cricklade

1841 Census
Chelworth Wharf,
Cricklade, Wiltshire
HO107/1178/6/ St Sampson Cricklade
Joseph PART, 35, Horse Breaker
Mary, 25
William, 4
ANN, 3
Henry, 2
Elizabeth, 10 Mths
Mary QUARRELL, 13, Female Servant
Joseph/Mary NOT born in County all others are.

Marriage from FreeREG;
02 December 1833, St John, Devizes, Wiltshire
Joseph PART of Cricklade Parish
Mary QUARRELL

Trish

[Ladyhawk]

Great work Trish 

I wonder if this might be Sarah/Helen on 1881c, although middle initial is given as ‘A’ 

Do you know her father's name - you mentioned previously he was in the Army

1881 RG11; Piece: 1163; Folio: 80; Page: 30
3 Lavinia Road Alverstoke Hampshire
Thomas HOOK 40 Oxted Surrey Ag Lab.
Ellen 35 Avon Hants
SARAH A 10 Alderney
Charlotte F 8 Isle Of Wight Hants
Charles F T 7 Hurst Castle
John E 5
Rose A Alverstoke
Rose A WATERIDGE sister in law 22
2 Boarders  & 1 visitor

Ellen Wateridge Christening 11 Jan 1846Sopley, Southampton, Hampshire
Father Charles Wateridge mother Anne

Rose Anna Wateridge Christening 17 Oct 1858 Sopley, Southampton, Hampshire
Father Charles Wateridge mother Anne

1861c RG 9; Piece: 667; Folio: 77; Page: 24
Charles WATERIDGE 46 Twyford Hampshire Shepherd (married 1843 Ann GILES)
Ann 40
ELLEN 15 Sopley
Henry 14
William 12
George 11
John 8
Fanny 6
Michael 4
ROSANA 2
Giles 9mths

1891 RG12; Piece: 1599; Folio: 153; Page: 12
11 Bridwell St Devizes Wiltshire
Thomas HOOK 50 Oxted Surrey Labourer
Ellen 45, John E 15, Rosa A 10 & Lavina May 6

1901 RG13; Piece: 979; Folio: 24; Page: 39
31 Arthur St. Portsmouth
Thomas Hook 60 Oxted Surrey Pensioner Army : Labourer gen.
Ellen 53, John 25 Carter Builders , Rose 20 Dom. Servant

1911c is free to search on Anc*y for a limited time you will find Thomas’ wife living with their married daughter

Thomas with his parents in 1851

1851 HO107; Piece: 1600; Folio: 166; Page: 15
Thomas HOOK 41  Manchester Gardener
Mary Ann 42 Tanbridge Surrey
Anna 21
Harriett 17
John 14
THOMAS 10 Oxted Surrey
Ellen Smith niece 1

Thomas Hook Christening Date:   15 Aug 1841 Tandridge Surrey
Father Thomas Hook mother Mary

[trish1120]

Yes, I think you have the right Hook

[irishdragon85]

I know nothing of Sarah's family and thanks to everyone here I know a lot about Charles'. My Grandmother doesn't really remember anything about her Grandfather nor does she talk about his family. It seems as though sometime either after my Grandmother was born or a little before it something happened to cause Ellen to become estranged from the rest of the family and Grandma is being very tight lipped about what.

[Ladyhawk]

I know nothing of Sarah's family and thanks to everyone here I know a lot about Charles'.

 My Grandmother doesn't really remember anything about her Grandfather nor does she talk about his family.

 It seems as though sometime either after my Grandmother was born or a little before it something happened to cause Ellen to become estranged from the rest of the family and Grandma is being very tight lipped about what.

 

Would you prefer that we not add anything else to the thread  in case it causes any upset
 -you can always be sent a PM (personal message) so only you can view details

I have amended my post and removed the 1924 marriage - I wouldn't like to cause any family upset if this might have been the reason - if you need the details again I can send them to you via a PM 

Can I check that we have not mentioned any person/s names known to be living?

[irishdragon85]

Oh no it's fine. My Grandmother lives halfway across the country (me in Alabama her in California) and she doesn't even know my Dad is interested in her family. I think it's because she is so tight lipped about them that he wants to know. He is starting to get curious to where he comes from.

[Ladyhawk]

There is the death entry but it's on FindMyPast - have know way of knowing if it might be your Charles - you need credits to view

British nationals died overseas  1818-2005
Charles SHADWELL   At sea   1944

looking at Anc*y it's probably  this chap which means he can be ruled him out

Charles Shadwell Age:   54 Merchant Navy
Death Date:   7 Aug 1944
Cemetery:   The Tower Hill Memorial Part XIV Sea-Sty
Burial Country:   England
Region or Memorial:   Memorial Register