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Army cap badge
« on: Sunday 25 August 13 11:17 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I am researching my family history and have come across a photograph of an ancestor who emigrated to Australia. I have found his Australian military record and this states he served in the Royal Field Artillery in England for 12 years before going to Australia.
The photograph was taken in England between 1901 and 1910, but I can not find a cap badge of the Royal Field Artillery that looks like the one in the photograph.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

The confused one.

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Re: Army cap badge
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 August 13 12:51 BST (UK) »
All Artillery badges have a wheeled cannon. This is the General Service Corps badge. That does not mean that he might not have later served in an Artillery branch.
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: Army cap badge
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 August 13 10:29 BST (UK) »
This is the correct cap badge for the period, WW1.  Ubique translates as everywhere.
The badge differs from the British Army version, only in the motto at the bottom of the badge.  Hope this helps.  If you want it translating, I can find out if you wish.
He looks like a private, if in the artillery he would be a 'Gunner' the swagger stick is for photographic purposes as a private would not be entitled to carry one in camp.

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Re: Army cap badge
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 August 13 10:59 BST (UK) »
Sorry if I confused you, this the Royal Australian Artillery cap badge.  Identical to the British apart from the motto at the bottom.  I seem to be struggling to download the British version.


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Re: Army cap badge
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 August 13 11:05 BST (UK) »
hi and welcme to rootschat
can you give us his name and year and place of birth please or anything else you know about him
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trevor
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Re: Army cap badge
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 August 13 11:39 BST (UK) »
Here you go! the motto roughly translates as 'Where right or glory leads'  The Royal Field Artillery would have had RFA probably in brass at the top of their sleeve.  My dad in my profile picture, served in the Royal Artillery in WW2.

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Re: Army cap badge
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 August 13 17:25 BST (UK) »
I think your man is wearing the cap badge of the Home Counties Reserve Regiments. Garrisons were emptied of troops in 1900 for service in South Africa and these reserve regiments were raised to replace those troops who went to S.A.
The General Service Corps was raised in 1942 and used the same badge (Royal Coat of Arms) as this soldier but the uniform is pre  ww1 so HCRR.
Your man must have transferred to the RFA from the HCRR.

James