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Re: Town Parish?
« Reply #36 on: Monday 26 August 13 08:45 BST (UK) »
No, but you all tried very hard and I thank everyone who offered assistance.

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Ward, Pridden, Swabey, Haslegrave, (Surrey) Simpson, Cull (Middlesex) Searby (Lincolnshire) Hobbs (Berkshire) Lally, McNamara, McGrath, Manion, (Ireland) Spencer, Mayo, Collender (Somerset, Gloucestershire)

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« Reply #37 on: Monday 26 August 13 08:58 BST (UK) »
There is a christening of a William searby July 1841 goulceby parish of huttoft father George mother Ellen.  Who do you have as his wife?

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« Reply #38 on: Monday 26 August 13 09:05 BST (UK) »
Have noted that one but no proof yet as to William's parents, so still only guessing. :'(

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« Reply #39 on: Monday 26 August 13 09:31 BST (UK) »
Hang on a minute  ;D  You said that his death certificate states that his parents were William Searby and Mary Maria Bruchmann  :-\  I've just had a look on FreeREG where most of the Lincolnshire parishes have been transcribed, and there is no marriage for anyone called Bruchmann listed.  Not conclusive, obviously.
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« Reply #40 on: Monday 26 August 13 09:43 BST (UK) »
Just to keep everyone up-to-date!!

From FreeBMD - covering England and Wales from 1 July 1837

First instance of a marriage for the surname BRUCHMANN = 1894
First instance of a marriage for WILLIAM SEARBY = 1847
There are no instances of a marriage between SEARBY and MARY MARIA

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First instance of a birth for WILLIAM SEARBY is 1838
First instance of  birth for BRUCHMANN is 1866
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« Reply #41 on: Monday 26 August 13 12:14 BST (UK) »
May I ask how would 'Huttoft' be heard and then written  in 1881 by a clerk in Victoria if an Irishwoman pronounced it as the birthplace of her husband?  Clerk cannot check spelling with the informant as she can make her mark rather than sign her name.  Would clerk scrawl 'Holford'

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There is a christening of a William searby July 1841 goulceby parish of huttoft father George mother Ellen.  Who do you have as his wife?
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« Reply #42 on: Monday 26 August 13 12:34 BST (UK) »
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Seztratt found him Kate ... I am quietly confident  ... look ..... naming pattern in the children and this next is icing on cake:

ALFORD .... V  Holford .... Alford is market town for Huttoft.

Done and Dusted

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Re: Town Parish?
« Reply #43 on: Monday 26 August 13 13:21 BST (UK) »
Quote from: majm on Monday 26 August 13 12:34 BST (UK)
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Seztratt found him Kate ... I am quietly confident  ... look ..... naming pattern in the children and this next is icing on cake:

ALFORD .... V  Holford .... Alford is market town for Huttoft.

Done and Dusted

Cheers JM.   

As I pointed out in Answer #6  Alford is 5 miles from Huttoft  ;D ;D  But Kate insists that William is son of William Searby and Mary Maria Bruchmann  :-\  And William baptised at Goulceby is the son of George and Ellen.  :-\  Hey ho!!!
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« Reply #44 on: Monday 26 August 13 18:24 BST (UK) »
My apologies in advance for this BUT  8)  I'm hoping that you have not taken too much notice of the various trees shown on Ancestry, which may or may not be correct.

You must take note ONLY of the documentary evidence that you have in your possession.

From Mary Ellen's birth registration in November 1881 we have the following siblings:

George William - 12 (1869)
Joseph - 10 (1871)
Charles - 7 (1874)
Lewis - 5 (1876)
and Peter - 3 (1878)

Maria (Manning) also states that she does not know the date of her marriage to William, other than it took place in Pennsylvania.  In 1881 she is 35 and from Ireland, William is 40 from England.

SO - where do the names of William Searby and Mary Maria Bruchmann come from?  Also I'd be interested to know the names of the children who accompanied William and Maria to Australia from Plymouth in 1876 - do they tie in with the names of the children quoted on Mary Ellen's birth registration?  (I don't have full access to Ancestry - just the UK records so I can't check for myself).  What other information is given on the passenger lists - ages, etc. etc.

Again, very sorry for being a pain  ;D :P :-*
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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