The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser

[Garthkh]

Very interesting to think that Thurlow possibly took over the Denburn Mill. I would love to find some records that show this.  I am in touch now with the present owner of the old Mill who has no history of the place, but fell in love with it.  The building has been modified on the outside a bit but still looks much the same. It's her residence now. She says she will be in touch with me again soon with more photos.
History unfolds slowly - but it's so interesting.

[Forfarian]

I took a look at the Valaution Rolls at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

In 1885 the proprietor of Denburn Mill was William McKay and Thurlow Fraser was the occupier in a house there belonging to William McKay. In 1895 the proprietor was still William McKay but someone else was in the tied house.

Not surprising really, as Thurlow died in 1889. His death certificate describes him as a miller journeyman so no, he didn't make it to being his own master, and my presumption was incorrect.

[jmodgling]

Thank you! I truly appreciate this great information.

[jmodgling]

I'm not sure that Alexander Fraser would have been related to the Saltoun Frasers though as "he died on 18 August 1853 at age 68, without issue" ( http://thepeerage.com/p3085.htm ).

Added - there's this tree on Family Search: not sure of the accuracy.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/MNG7-46X

Other info suggests that she was the illegitimate daughter of the first Baron Thurlow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Thurlow,_1st_Baron_Thurlow and http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Thurlow,_Edward_%281731-1806%29_%28DNB00%29

When you are referring to the Alexander Fraser above, are you saying he is our Alexander FRASER who married Christina BURNET, parents of Thurlow FRASER?

[Forfarian]

Hmm. Interesting tree of Catherine Thurlow.

It suggests that Catherine Thurlow was born about 1761, and that she married Alexander Fraser in 1815. If that is true, it's no wonder there were no children.

And it suggests that she was 24 years older than her husband. Not impossible, of course, but pretty unusual.

[Forfarian]

I happened to be wandering around Tyrie yesterday and came across Denburn. See attached.

The name Denburn is on the glass panel above the front door.

[Garthkh]

I recently joined a FaceBook group in New Pitsligo and had the honour of finding the current owner of the old Denburn Mill.  I sent the lady of the house a image of the painting my wife Jenny did and she sent back to me a video she took all around the current property and a number of current photos. Very blessed.

[Garthkh]

I was looking though articles today trying to find names in my research and this quote popped up.
I have to like it .....
Why waste your money looking up your family tree? Just go into politics and your opponents will do it for you.
~ Mark Twain

[Liviani]

I've been inactive for a while but I'm back still trying to solve parents in the line of Thurlow Fraser (1825-1889) (married to Jane Cowie). With your wonderful help we found a father for him - Alexander Fraser married to Christian Burnet.
From the various census records we see that Thurlow Fraser aged 15 is working as a Male Servant in an Inn run by George and Jean Fraser (presumably relatives).

To try and get some perspective of their movements I did this  map linking their places of births and deaths for Alexander Fraser, Christian Burnet, Thurlow Fraser and Jane Cowie.

Alexander Fraser        born Fraserburgh     death Cullen

Christian Burnet        born Pitsligo            death Philorth

Thurlow Fraser            born Fraserburgh        death New Pitsligo

Jane Cowie                born New Deer            death New Pitsligo
They all moved in fairly close proximity in this area of Scotland.
I've added Banffshire in because this is where the 1841 census is taken for Thurlow Fraser (15 yrs old).  Alexander died in 1848 in Cullen so he must have moved there, and his son Thurlow, stayed in Banff with family (also Frasers) at the Inn where he worked as a Male Servant.  Pitty the name of the Inn is not given.  I would guess that Christian Burnet was with Alexander in Cullen at his death and then moved back to near her old hometown (Philorth near Pitsligo)

I'm still not completely satisfied that this Alexander Fraser (married to Christian Burnet) are Thurlow's parents.  Are there any actual birth notices available that can show this?

We have Thurlow and Jane's actual marriage certificate but no birth or baptism certificate.

Hi Garthkh, I have just stumbled upon this thread and noticed mention of Christian Burnet(t) and Alexander Fraser. This is likely not relevant to your particular ancestry, but I thought I'd mention this regardless. I have a private working theory tree going. It features the same Alexander Fraser and Christian Burnet(t) that is mentioned here, there is a good chance they are my direct ancestors. The working theory tree is based on my great-grandmother who was illegitimate and via DNA matching I have some leads on who her father was.

Alexander and Christian's daughter Jane Fraser is my possible ancestor. Jane married John Rankin in 1836 at Fraserburgh. She died at Boyndie Street, Banff in 1868. On her death entry, her parents were named Alexander Fraser, deceased who was a joiner and Christian Burnet. I also have a brother for her, Alexander Dalrymple Fraser born about 1808, in Fraserburgh. He died in 1883 at Stonehouse, Rathen. Alexander's death entry also confirms his father's occupation as a joiner.
Incidentally, Jane Fraser's husband, John Rankin was also working in the same trade, he was a house carpenter.

I'm curious about the 1848 you have for Alexander Fraser's death. I have him as still alive in the 1851 census in Peterhead, aged 65 with the occupation of house carpenter (master employing one man). He is living with a 21-year-old house servant, Hellen Webster born Peterhead. My only query with this one is that it has him as 'unmarried', but wondered if it was a mistake instead of noting him as widowed, but the age and occupation match. I'm happy to consider that I may have the wrong man if the 1848 death is more likely? This 1851 census has him being born approx 1786 in the parish of Lonmay.

Happy to hear any thoughts.

EDIT: Found another child of Alexander Fraser and Christian Burnett, Isabella who was in receipt of poor relief in Fraserburgh in 1883 aged 65.