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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 10:15 BST (UK) »
I have come to the realization that there are two separate Alexander Frasers that have been confused as being one and same. This is in the time period of 1804-6.
One Alexander Fraser born 1778 (Pitsligo?) was married to Jean Bruce and had two sons: Alexander born 1804 and George born 1806.
He couldn't have married Christian or Christina, Christine Burnett in Jan. 1806 when his wife Jean Bruce was present at their son's birth later in the year!!
This line seems to be fairly well documented even with the mix-up of Alexanders.

I would like information on the Alexander Fraser that married Christian Burnett. There was a Thurlow born to them. There are so many Alexander Frasers that I am going cross-eyed!

Still nagging at me, would like to have more information of the following, only because the spelling of Thirlow is correct:
Thirlow Fraser born 20th May 1859 Tyrie, Aberdeenshire. Only lists the mother Margaret Fraser.
There is a Margaret Fraser Born Jan. 1844 Skene, Aberdeen with a father named Findlay Fraser.
Coincidence that William Fraser's middle name is Findlay who married Isobel Mitchell?
Are they related?

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 11:20 BST (UK) »
Hi daisypetal

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I would like information on the Alexander Fraser that married Christian Burnett. There was a Thurlow born to them. There are so many Alexander Frasers that I am going cross-eyed!

Both Forfarian and I have been looking for  Alexander Fraser and Christian Burnett  details since the weekend but so far nothing has come up. None of their children are showing in the parish records so it is possible that there might not be anything for them. Information can be lost/destroyed/ etc. I recall that someone mentioned that only about 30% of parish records survive.

According to his daughter/son's records (already given), Alexander was a forester and dead on their certs.

Fraser is a very common surname and Alexander also a common forename.  As far as ascertained their first child was born circa 1813 and the last one circa 1838.

If I find anything, I'll put up the details.


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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 12:39 BST (UK) »
Still nagging at me, would like to have more information of the following, only because the spelling of Thirlow is correct
Please don't get hung up on spelling. In the early 19th century there was no such thing as 'correct' spelling. Just accept that there are several ways of spelling Th*rl*w, all of which are equally valid.

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Thirlow Fraser born 20th May 1859 Tyrie, Aberdeenshire. Only lists the mother Margaret Fraser.
There is a Margaret Fraser Born Jan 1844 Skene, Aberdeen with a father named Findlay Fraser.
Coincidence that William Fraser's middle name is Findlay who married Isobel Mitchell?
Are they related?
Another excellent way to waste time is to speculate unnecessarily about possible relationships, especially when you are dealing with names as common as Fraser, Mitchell and Fin(d)lay. You know from the census that Margaret Fraser was born in Fraserburgh about 1838, so why speculate about someone born 5 or 6 years later than your Margaret, in a parish 40 miles distant, at the other side of the county from Fraserburgh, who would have been only 14 years old when Th*rl*w was conceived?

There is a very easy way to find out who Margaret Fraser's parents were. You know from the marriage certificate of her son Th*rl*w Dunlop that she married James Imlah, and from correspondence here that the marriage took place in Aberdeen in 1863. Go to Scotland's People and get that marriage certificate. It will tell you the full names of both parents of Margaret Fraser.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 12:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian  :)

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There is a very easy way to find out who Margaret Fraser's parents were. You know from the marriage certificate of her son Th*rl*w Dunlop that she married James Imlah, and from correspondence here that the marriage took place in Aberdeen in 1863.

Think I've already given this  - I certainly have the marriage showing in my SP records :)

Margaret Fraser's parents were Alexander Fraser, forester and Christiana m.s. Burnett  - both deceased by 1863.



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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 12:54 BST (UK) »
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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 13:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian  :)
Think I've already given this  - I certainly have the marriage showing in my SP records :)

Yes, sorry, this thread has got quite confusing - I forgot you had already paid for that certificate.
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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 14:16 BST (UK) »
As far as ascertained their first child was born circa 1813 and the last one circa 1838.

Have we actually ascertained that George Fraser, innkeeper, married to Jane/Jean Ranke/in, and father of one of the Th*rl*w Frasers (the one born 30 June 1841) was the son of Alexander Fraser and Christian Burnet(t)?
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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 14:21 BST (UK) »

Sorry - thought that you'd liked them but I see that it was the Thurlow association only.  We've got evidence for William (c. 1818) and Margaret (c. 1838)though.

I can't find her on the IGI as yet - maybe I'll get out my credits out and see what her marriage cert has.
William was a lot older - 43 on the 1861.

Yes. We have the given name Th*rl*w associated with

George Fraser, born 1813/14 in Fraserburgh
William Fraser, born 1818/9 in Fraserburgh
Thurlow Fraser, born 1825/6 in Fraserburgh
Margaret Fraser, born 1837/9 in Fraserburgh

None of whose baptisms are listed in the community indexed IGI.



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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 14:23 BST (UK) »
Using 1 credit only, there's a death for a George Fraser, 1860, aged 46, Old Deer. Mother's mn Burnett - so looks likely


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