Henry John freeman born c1861 Bexhill, Sussex

[Haff]

I have been trying, unsuccessfully, to discover information about Henry John Freeman, a labourer, and his parents, grandparents.
In 1901/1911 he was living with his second wife, Annie (Gower - also previously married) and their children, step children in Belle Hill, Bexhill, Sussex. They married in 1900.
I believe that Henry was previously married to Julia (who died in 1899) and that they were living in Belle Hill, Bexhill at the time of the 1891 census.
I seem to have hit a brick wall in finding earlier information on Henry, his parents and, ideally, grandparents. Any leads, information would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance

Haff

[rosie99]

Does his marriage give any information on his father

Rosie

[keyboard86]

Hi their is this family in 1861?

Henry Freeman 58 occ Ag Lab
Mary 55
John 18
Elizabeth 9
James 7 Grandson
William 7 Grandson
Ann 3 Grandaughter
HARRY 6 months Grandson
Residing at Sidley Corner, Bexhill
All born Bexhill
Census Ref RG09/563/56/17
Keyboard86

[L]

Hi,

There was a Henry John Freeman baptised at Battle St Mary 14.11.1860, son of Harriet, abode Battle Union.

Hope this is of some use.

Lesley

[L]

Hi again,

Looking further, it appears that Harriet Freeman married George Savage in 1865, and in 1871 there is this family:
RG10/1034/22
Wish Street, Bexhill
George Savage 46
Harriet 38
William Savage 18
John Henry Freeman 11
Frederick Savage 9
Ellen Savage 5
Alfred Savage 1

Regards,
Lesley

[Haff]

Lesley,
many thanks for the information which does indeed seem to be the Henry John Freeman that I was looking given details on 1911 Census which includes:
Henry John Freeman, head of household, aged 50 and Hariett Savage, a widow, mother of head of household aged 80.
Not 100% sure but  I believe that Henry John Freeman's father was Henry Freeman who married Hariett Barker in 1858 (Battle district). A Henry Freeman died in 1859 (registered Dec qtr in Battle), presumably just before his son Henry John was born in 1860 (cannot find him on FreeBMD though).

Hopefully above is correct and I can start tracing Henry and Hariett back.....to thier parents...

thanks again

Haff

[sillgen]

Not wishing to throw a spanner in the works but the baptism in 1860 seems to imply that Henry was an illegitimate child of Harriet as there is no father mentioned.   In 1841 the family shown in the 1861 census do have a daughter called Harriet, age 10.

[sillgen]

In 1891 Henry gives his place of birth as Battle.
Do you have any certificates?   Harriet's marriage should show if she was widowed when she married Mr Savage.

[Haff]

Sillgen,
unfortunately no re certificates at present. Currently taking advantage of free Census access on Ancestry UK over Bank holiday to try and gather relevant information. Regarding 1861 Census i have been unable to find Harriet (should be aged c30) or a one year old Henry John. Your earlier post referred to 1861 and 1841 Census presumably for Harriett? Any further info you have re these Census records would be appreciated.

The lack of father being mentioned on Lesley's earlier post re Henry's baptism did seem strange to me but I wondered whether it could be because she was a widow....

thanks for assisting...the search continues...

Haff