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Help to find Thomas Carlen
« on: Wednesday 21 August 13 21:35 BST (UK) »
Hi
Im hoping to find my relative we believe moved to Ausralia .
His name was Thomas Carlen we believe he was born 1845 in shoreditch london and moved to Australia.
any help would be brilliant
thankyou
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Re: Help to find Thomas Carlen
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 22:17 BST (UK) »
Hi, Ah you say you believe your Thomas Carlen was born 1845 in London. Does this statement mean you are not sure? Also when did he supposedly move to Australia, was he married, or go with family or single, young, old and also any idea of what State he went to? Modified....Do you have him on any census?

His Parents names will help identify the correct one if found in Australia, do you know these please?

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Re: Help to find Thomas Carlen
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 22:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Neil
         its been passed down the family that Thomas Carlen  went to Australia ,we dont know when or where abouts .
his parents were Thomas and Sarah but i dont know if they went .
he was born 1845 in shoreditch london
the last cencus we found was 1851 in london with his parents
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Re: Help to find Thomas Carlen
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 22:31 BST (UK) »
I can find only one roughly fitting the right age/name. That is an Arthur Thomas CARLEN in 1861 London the son of a Widow Sarah Carlen and siblings. He is born 1848.

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Re: Help to find Thomas Carlen
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 22:36 BST (UK) »
can i ask what seeing red means at the end of your comment

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Re: Help to find Thomas Carlen
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 22:38 BST (UK) »
Means your post was up before my reply?
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Re: Help to find Thomas Carlen
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 23:45 BST (UK) »
Possibly your Carlen Family.
Thomas b1891 TYPO b1791South Shields, Susan b1801Hampton, Thomas b1845 City Road. they are living at
NICHOL SQUARE Parish SAINT LEONARD SHOREDITCH City TOWER HAMLETS County Middlesex
Division Of County MIDDLESEX OSSULSTON.
Are these the one's you refer too and what leads you to believe that Thomas went to Australia, please. ???

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 August 13 00:25 BST (UK) »
Plewsy on this link you were also sure another of your CARLEN ancestor had emigrated to Australia but was found in the US.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=654848.0

Is this your family in 1851?  If so, mother appears to be Susan not Sarah.

1851 Census  HO107/1537/178/ 41
Living at  82 Nichol Square, Shoreditch [There was also another family living at this address]
CARLEN Thomas Head Married 60 years Merchant's clerk  Born South Shields
CARLEN Susan Wife Married 50 years  Born Hampton
CARLEN Thomas Carlen Son 6 years    Born Mid City Rd
MORGAN Catharine Servant 15 years   House Servant  Born Westminster

Oh Neil I now see Neil has mentioned the 1851 census however I have listed Thomas' seniors occupation so will leave it.

This may be Susan's death
Deaths Mar 1868 
CARLEN Susannah    67 years    Islington    1b/144

Incidentally do you have Thomas's birth certificate?  If not how do you know you have the correct Thomas?

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Re: Help to find Thomas Carlen
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 August 13 01:01 BST (UK) »
I don't hold much store in family tales, but I will add that if Thomas b1791 came from South Shields in Durham that you may have some good luck with tracing his family via the Durham Bishops Transcripts. They are available online and are a great resource.

Your Thomas may have been the reason for the others going to California, so a possible post there may yeild a result.

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