Look up requested for KEARNS in Manchester c 1885

[Radcliff]

1871 census
Layton and Warbreck,
Victoria Street,
Blackpool,
RG10/4222
Mary  A Storry,widow aged 56 years,lodging house keeper,born Stayleybridge,
Marion E Morrison,unmarried,aged 24 ,daughter,assistant housekeeper,born Stayleybridge,
Lucy M Shickle,aged 4,grandaughter, born Manchester,

I havnt worked out the family connection here,Lucy is with her mother in later census,
and she is a Pike before marriage,
married,
Cathedral Manchester,
April 4th 1854
John  Blythe Shickle,aged 29 professor of music,67 Clopton St,Hulme,
father John Shickle,farmer
Eliza Harriet Pike,aged 25,spinster,of the same abode,
father George White Pike,hosier,
witness to the marriage,Thomas Walter Pike and Sarah Robinson,

[Radcliff]

Manchester Cathedral
15th December 1855
Patrick Galloway Storrey,aged 32,packer,bachelor,
of 5 Westmorland St Stockport Road,
father James Storrey ,surgeon,
Mary Ann Morrison,widow aged 40,of Stayley Bridge Lancashire,
father Edward Hall,publican,
witness to marriage by Licence James Mills,

first marriage,
St John Manchester,
15th October 1838
Hugh Morrison,full age,bachelor,of Manchester,
father John Morrison,Inn Keeper,
Mary Ann Hall,Full age spinster of Manchester,
father Edward Hall inn keeper,
witness to marriage,

possible death/burial
6th October 1853
St George Stayley Bridge
Hugh McFarlaine Morrison
aged 39 years
abode Ardwick Manchester

[heywood]

Hi Sarah,

What do you think about the searches?
It may be that the children were taken back to Ireland because James couldn't manage the care rather than a death for him.
There was no formal adoption at that time.
You could order a copy of Marian's death certificate here: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ which would hopefully explain her death.

Heywood

[Pollsara]

Thank you Radcliff, but I'm thinking that since  this Marion was 40 in 1855, she could not realistically have a son Willie in 1883.
Heywood, I am bowled over by the willingness of your members to spend their time researching this family.
At this time I don't think Marion's death certificate would provide any helpful info, since we are not totally sure if she is the mother. I think I need to find Willie's birth certificate, but I'm not sure how.............  Radcliff posted:
 William H Kearns
birth registered Hulme Manchester 1883
reference,HUL/240/40...........but where do I order a copy from ?
 Is Hulme a suburb of Manchester ?
I am totally overwhelmed by the amount of documentation that exists and all the different websites and passwords required...........

[heatherjulie]

Just spotted this one
William Charles Kearns christened 4th August 1889 Chapelry of St. Clement, Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England parents James Kearns and Alice Amelia.

added: I think that this one can be ruled out as he is with his parents and grandmother Eliza Kearns (born Cheshire) in 1891

[heatherjulie]

William Harold Kearns registered apr may jun 1883 Chorlton

[heywood]

Hi Sarah,

The marriage which Radcliff posted is the mother of Marian/Mary Ann Morrison.

You can order  birth certificates from the same reference I gave you re the death certificate.
This is the information for Manchester Registrars http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/324/family_history_searches/1144/buy_a_copy_certificate

heywood

[Radcliff]

This is a bit confusing for me to,

1851 CENSUS,
H0107/2238
King Street,
Hartishead,Ashton Under Lyne
Mary Ann Morrison,married, aged 36 professor of music,
Marion E Morrison aged 4,daughter
both born Stayleybridge Lancashire,

1861 CENSUS,
Marion E Morrison
is boarding at Higher Hall School,Westleigh,Lancashire,

1871 ,she is with her mother Mary Ann Storry,remarried and widowed,

1881 she is with her husband James Kearns,

[Radcliff]

iN 1861 CENSUS
Mason Street,
Hulme,
RG9/2899
Patrick G Story,aged 38,born Scotland,packer of groceries,
Mary Ann Story,wife born Stayley Bridge,aged  46 years,


Patrick Galloway Story death recorded Chorlton 1863,
Mary Anns death is recorded ,Fylde,1876