Look up requested for KEARNS in Manchester c 1885

[Pollsara]

Hi
 I would appreciate any assistance locating a relative named Kearns ( possibly James),who may have owned /leased a store in Manchester between 1878 and 1885 roughly !
His wife's name may have been Marion Morrison(or Morrissey) and they had 2 children, Mary born in 1878 and Willie in 1883.
They would most likely be Catholic and both died (during some epidemic) around 1885.  My greatgrandfather (Thomas Murphy, or my grandfather Matthew Murphy) took both children to Ireland and raised them, as I believe they were Thomas'  niece and  nephew.

Would there be records of adoption ?(not sure if there was a formal adoption).

I was able to find both "children" in Ireland in the 1901 census, but not sure what year they arrived.

Any information re the parents would be very much appreciated.

( This request was originally opened in a different Forum, but I'm not sure how to link to it).  I'm a bit technologically challenged at my age.   

Thank you,
Sarah

[Jool]

This could be them in 1881 at 25 Rutland Street, Hulme, Chorlton reg district.

James Kearns, head, b. 1841 Ireland,  provision dealer
Marion Kearns, wife, b. 1847 Hulme, Lancashire
Mary F. Kearns, daur. age 3 months
Michael O'brien, boarder, b. 1839 Ireland, Labourer

[mosiefish]

There was also this Kearns family:
9 Maria Place, Hulme
Thomas Kearns, Head, Mar, 30, Tailor, County Louth Ireland
Fanny, Wife, Mar, 28, County Wicklow, Ireland
Mary, Daur, 4, Dublin Ireland

Mo

[heywood]

Hello,

your other post was hidden away in here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=656401.msg5037728#msg5037728. You have some information there, I think.

heywood 

[Radcliff]

Did Willie have a middle name

William H Kearns
birth registered Hulme Manchester 1883
reference,HUL/240/40

[fairlane]

James Kearns married Marion Elizabeth Morrison 1878 Mar qtr  Chorlton 8c 983. Lancashire BMD gives marriage as Register Office or Registrar attended.

[Pollsara]

Thanks to all for your very prompt replies.  I'm thinking that the entry in 1881 posted by Jool is the most likely candidate.
The marriage date posted by Fairlane sounds likely as does the entry for Willie posted by Radcliff. 
 Thanks to mosiefish also, but I don't think that sounds like my relatives.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned a flu or other epidemic in the area in the late 1880's. Am I misinformed about that possibility?

Next step would be, where do i look to find possible death certificates for James and Marion.

Again, my thanks to all for your quick responses.
Sarah

[mosiefish]

Hi,

I only posted the 4 year old Mary Kearns as an alternative as you said your Mary was born 1873 or 1878  . Also by 1891 this 14 year year old Mary Ann Kearns was in an industrial school. 

Anyway there is a death registered for a Marian Kearns in the sub district of Stretford in 1888 aged 42 which is probably the Marion in the 1881 census.  See www.lancashirebmd.org.uk.

Regards,
Mo

[heywood]

Hello,

I wonder if this is James in 1891 3192/ 114/ 39

James Kearns 50 yrs Green Grocer b Ireland
Jane wife 48 yrs b Llanferres, Montgomeryshire
George J Ross 40 yrs lodger b Stockport

Lancashire BMD has a marriage for a James Kearns to Jane Rees/Price 1889

regards
heywood