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Offline heywood

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Re: Minimum info, but could use suggestions
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 August 13 15:20 BST (UK) »
Hello,

if you recall them living on Rochdale Road, you may be to find the timing through electoral rolls.
That may then help with death records. I looked at cemetery records when you first posted but couldn't see anything to match. http://apps1.oldham.gov.uk/bacasweb/gensearch.aspx

Did they move in retirement, do you recall.

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 August 13 16:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Heywood

I think Jack probably died soon after retirement (at what age did men retire then, I wonder?) and Sarah eventually moved into a care home. 

Electoral rolls - that's a good idea.

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FAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY/FEARY, LAWSON, CHURCH, BENSON, HALSTEAD from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts;  Burnley, Lancs;  New Zealand, Australia & US.

HURST, BOLTON,  BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD, MCIVOR from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs., Scotland.

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 19 August 13 16:18 BST (UK) »
Was the care home in Oldham or Rochdale? Any memories?
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« Reply #12 on: Monday 19 August 13 16:21 BST (UK) »
You're asking me to stretch my memory a long way, Heywood!  I was only a youngster at the time when my mother took me to visit her there, but I'm pretty sure it was in Oldham and was council run.

I have found at least 8 possible deaths for Jack in Oldham, which isn't very helpful.
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FAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY/FEARY, LAWSON, CHURCH, BENSON, HALSTEAD from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts;  Burnley, Lancs;  New Zealand, Australia & US.

HURST, BOLTON,  BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD, MCIVOR from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs., Scotland.


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« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 August 13 16:34 BST (UK) »
Righto - back to Electoral rolls!

His death may also be John Kershaw ::) of which there are more than a few.
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Re: Minimum info, but could use suggestions
« Reply #14 on: Monday 19 August 13 19:26 BST (UK) »
Have found a probate record and all the details seem to fit except for one - they had a son.

John Edmund Kershaw aged 71 of 687 Rochdale Road, Royton, Lancashire died 26/7/1947.   Probate Manchester 14 October to Sarah Kershaw, widow and Edward Kershaw, mechanical engineer.

According to marriages John Edmund Kershaw married a Sarah Heywood bc.1875 Failsworth in Jun.qtr.1900 Oldham - their son Edward b.Dec.qtr.1902 Oldham.

Looked through probates as one would think that someone employed by a bank would leave a will.   His age seems to fit, lived Rochdale Road, had a wife Sarah and both bc.1875/6.   The Edward listed must be their son as shown on census - but you say they didn't have any children??

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 19 August 13 20:02 BST (UK) »
Have found a probate record and all the details seem to fit except for one - they had a son.

John Edmund Kershaw aged 71 of 687 Rochdale Road, Royton, Lancashire died 26/7/1947.   Probate Manchester 14 October to Sarah Kershaw, widow and Edward Kershaw, mechanical engineer.

According to marriages John Edmund Kershaw married a Sarah Heywood bc.1875 Failsworth in Jun.qtr.1900 Oldham - their son Edward b.Dec.qtr.1902 Oldham.

Looked through probates as one would think that someone employed by a bank would leave a will.   His age seems to fit, lived Rochdale Road, had a wife Sarah and both bc.1875/6.   The Edward listed must be their son as shown on census - but you say they didn't have any children??

Annette

How can you be sure that the Edward Kershaw mentioned in the probate record and the Edward Kershaw born 1902 are 1) the same person and 2) their son?

Added- I suspect that John Edmund Kershaw and wife Sarah may not be the correct couple, which means that Edward (b.1902) could be their son.
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« Reply #16 on: Monday 19 August 13 20:51 BST (UK) »
aghadowey, obviously I can't be sure that the Edward Kershaw shown in probate record was John Edmund Kershaw's son but knowing he did have just one child, son Edward b.1902, it seems a reasonable assumption.

Nor can I be sure that this relates to the couple in question but too many details all match the given facts so far which is why I had to post it!  Surely you can see that? 

Annette





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« Reply #17 on: Monday 19 August 13 21:00 BST (UK) »
Found some details earlier which seem to indicate that John Edmund and Sarah are the parents of Edward but John isn't the Jack Kershaw who worked in the bank. Will see if I can get it again and will post new information.
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