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Offline aghadowey

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Re: Minimum info, but could use suggestions
« Reply #18 on: Monday 19 August 13 21:43 BST (UK) »
John Edmund Kershaw married Apr./June 1900 Oldham district (vol. 8d page 1034) to Sarah Heywood. Marriage took place at Christ Church, Chadderton according to Lancs FreeBMD

Here's Edward Kershaw, age 8, in 1911 census- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XW1X-BSV
Lancs FreeBMD gives mother's maiden name as Heywood which fits with above marriage.

1901 census- Wardle, Lancs. (in household of Richard Kershaw)
son John Edmund Kershaw, age 20, single, born Rochdale, ? [felting?] miller

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1911 census for this John Edmund Kershaw would give his occupation.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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« Reply #19 on: Monday 19 August 13 22:11 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Would it help to find their burial place?

Found this site
http://apps1.oldham.gov.uk/bacasweb/gensearch.aspx

If you type in 'John Kershaw' there is an interesting burial on Page 3
John aged 76 buried 2.4.1955
Sarah aged 87 buried 30.9.1965
Ann aged 63 buried 12.12.1906

Doesn't help with Sarah's maiden name though

Sue

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« Reply #20 on: Monday 19 August 13 22:37 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Maybe....

Probate
Kershaw Sarah of Broadway Hostel Chadderton Oldham died 25th Sep 1965 Oldham and District General Hospital. Administration (with will) Manchester 26th October to Fred Hambler dye works tenter-in


FreeBMD marriage

Sept. Q 1908 Rochdale
Sarah Hambler
John Kershaw on the same page

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« Reply #21 on: Monday 19 August 13 23:10 BST (UK) »
Freebmd
Births
Sarah Hambler
March Q 1878 Rochdale 8e 7
Fred Hambler
Dec. Q 1901 Rochdale 8e 1

Marriage
March Q 1874
David Hambler with
Alice Wild on same page 8e 132

All seems to fit - I hope it's right

Sue


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« Reply #22 on: Monday 19 August 13 23:13 BST (UK) »
Sue - think you might have cracked it.

Sarah Hambler  bc.1878 was the daughter David Hambler and wife Alice.   David Hambler married Alice Wild Mar.qtr. 1874 Rochdale.

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 19 August 13 23:19 BST (UK) »
On 1881 Census - ref. RG11 - 4100 - 96 - 5 - at Butterworth, Lancs. - David and Alice have a son named John Kershaw Hambler.

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 19 August 13 23:46 BST (UK) »
This looks very interesting.

I was browsing earlier and someone had posted re the Yorkshire Bank being next door to the Railway Hotel in Royton. The pub address is 1 Oldham Road and I looked in 1911 but I couldn't see a number 3. Nor can I find another reference to the bank address. (It is now a newer building and in the Precinct/ Rochdale Road).
The burial of John Kershaw gives an address of 9, Oldham Road Royton.
There was a care home called Broadway House.

However, Ann Kershaw (also in the grave) has an address of Dove Street Oldham. She is in 1901 with her son, John who is a velvet weaver.

I did wonder earlier if John was the caretaker of the bank with him living over the premises?
He may have moved on though, I do realise.

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 20 August 13 09:55 BST (UK) »
These last bits of information are amazing and would seem to fit the bill perfectly - I just knew Rootschatters would help me to solve this mystery.  There's a lot to take in and think about, but I'm pretty sure you have cracked it - thank you so much, everyone. 

Oldham archives replied very promptly that my information was too vague for them to find anything, except that the Yorkshire Penny Bank was not on Rochdale Road, but at 5, Oldham Road!

The Kershaw name appears on both sides of the family, Alice Wild being the daughter of Charles Wild and Hannah Kershaw, hence the John Kershaw Hambler.

Will think more later, but am so grateful.

Gillg ;D
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 20 August 13 10:05 BST (UK) »
Hi again,
Just one more point. This is from memory last night, but Ann Kershaw was a single mum living in Crompton and was born in Butterworth also. Her parents were John and Sally Kershaw.

Regards
Heywood
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