William Yardley, John Yardley, Lye (Old Swinford)

[Jules1066]

I found the following info on IGI, but would like to know if anyone is able to confirm these details from actual Parish Record entries, which I believe are held in Dudley. Also would like to know their occupations...

John Yardley born 1788 in Lye - died ? (married Lydia Spittle born 1793)
William Yardley born 1763 in Lye - died 1806? (married to Esther Robins born ?)
John Yardley born 1737 in Lye - died 1781? (married to Martha Brook born 1736 in Lye)
Is there a generation missing?
John Yardley born 1689 in Lye ? - died 1759? (married to Mary Hill ?? born 1714 in Lye)

I would be very grateful for any information which may trace the family line even further back....In the 19th century, the family lived in Wastebank in Wollescote in the parish of Oldswinford

Did anyone in this family from France? There were many settlers from France who made glass.

[Victor Harvey]

Hi,
The following 2 burial records are recorded in the St Mary, Old Swinford burial records:-
20/08/1803, John YARDLEY, aged 68
01/01/1813, William YARDLEY, aged 49
Victor

[Jules1066]

Thank you Victor.

This is very helpful. I will check it against other information I have.

[linell]

Hi Jules this family are my Ancestors, have spent years researching them, I have checked their births, marriages and deaths, also other documents I have found.  They were Nailers originally, don't think they were Huguenots, I found some 15th Century Records where the name was Yeardley, didn't try and connect them as I would never have been able to prove a connection.  A fellow researcher said they originated from Yardley Birmingham?  But wouldn't like to speculate on that.  The link to my tree is here:-

Link removed at linell's request

[Jules1066]

Thank you Linnell

I've had a chance to look at your tree, which is very comprehensive. I am intrigued to know where the records are located detailing the removal orders.  And where did you find the details on the various deaths in Cradley? I've spent a day at the records office in Worcestershire, but did not have enough time to locate everything, other than verify births, marriages, some deaths etc.

[linell]

Hi Jules, yes the early Johns are complicated, being removed from Cradley to Old Swinford and back again!  The Burials I found in the St Mary Oldswinford Parish Register and the Cradley Chapel now St Peter's Register.  The Removal and Settlement Docs are from St Mary's Old Swinford.  Worcester Archives also has these documents:-

Details from Documents held at Worcester Record Office regarding an Auction in Stourbridge in 1819.  (I think it must be this John born 1766?)

LOT 1 Three closes of Land adjoining and situated near the Grange, is the respective holdings of William Jones and John Yardley.  In one of  which there is an old established Brick Kiln, in full working order.  Situated close to the Coal Works and within three quarters of a mile of Stourbridge.

LOT 11 Five very valuable and compact closes of Land is the holding of the said John Yardley.  Chiefly Meadow and Pasture, lying together and adjoining the last LOT.  With a small Farm House and Out Buildings, which adjoin the Turnpike Road leading from Pedmore to Holly Hall.  A right of road will be reserved through LOT 1 to this LOT.

1819 From a copy of a Solicitors Letter:-

"I have had Yardley with me today (Bewdley address.)  Who came and paid his rent this day due.  He was afraid I suppose of a bust up.  He will not give up the Farm unless you will give him £20.00.  I made him an offer of £10.00 which he refused.  I told Yardley he cannot hold on to the Farm longer than Lady Day.


Will see what I else I can copy and paste for you.  I do have a CD from Worcester which contains a lot of Letters from John Yardley to his Solicitor, the above is a transcript of one of them. 

HTH Linell.

[linell]

YARDLEY BURIALS

Old Swinford

Abraham 15.12.1732
George 18.10.1743
Jane 27.1.1741
Mary 8.2.1751
Thomas 6.4.1747
Thomas 17.4.1756
Esau 6.10.1721
George 11.7.1719
Isack 10.11.1725
Jane 9.4.1730
John 13.12.1729
Joseph 9.6.1746
Thomas 15.5.1719

Halesowen

Thomas either 26.3.1698 or 26.3.1697

[Jules1066]

Hi Linnell

The Worcester CD sounds interesting!

I'm interested about John Yardley's birth & burial date (married to Martha Brook born 1736)...as the Old Swinford parish records include a John Yardley born around 1737 (or 1735?) father John, mother Mary. He died in 1803 aged 68. John Yardley married Martha Brook in 1758 and IGI records suggest their (first?) son William (not on your family tree) was born in 1756 (they may not have been married).

But your website suggests Martha Brook who was christened in Old Swinford in 1736 married John Yardley born in Cradley Worc in 1745.....which means he would have been 11 when their first son William Yardley was born, or 14 when Mary Yardley was born.  This makes me think the John Yardley born 1745 Cradley Worcester is not the right John Yardley. Or the 1745 date is wrong and he was born in Cradley, but christened in Old Swinford??

If there are 2x John Yardley's living around 1782 (one born 1736 an one born 1745)...which is the one mentioned on the Cradley Field Survey of 1782?  And if the John Cradley mentioned in the survey rented a meadow of 1269 Acres it suggests he was a leasehold farmer. Joseph Yardley born 1775 and Jane Round had a son called John Yardley born 1797 who became a farmer...so maybe his father Joseph yardley was also a farmer as was John born 1766?? My initial thinking was that the Yardley's were all just simple 'Nailers', but maybe this was a later trade they took up in the 19th century.

I'm really interested now to find these Cradley records...
 
I wonder WHY they were being 'removed' from Lye?

[linell]

Hi Jules, yes sorry just checked my notes, John born 1737 Married Martha Brooks, had that date in my notes but not on the Web Site, will have to change that.  Have this for John and Martha, bit more detail:-

More About JOHN YARDLEY:
Burial: August 20, 1803, St Marys Oldswinford Worcs
Occupation: Farmer

Notes for MARTHA BROOKS:
Martha's Parents were John Brooks and Martha Bach.

More About MARTHA BROOKS:
Baptism: April 10, 1736, St John's Parish Church Halesowen Worcs
   
Children of JOHN YARDLEY and MARTHA BROOKS are:
   i.   MARY4 YARDLEY, b. Abt. 1759, Old Swinford Worcs; d. Bef. 1771, Old Swinford Worcs.
   ii.   JANE YARDLEY, b. Abt. 1761, Old Swinford Worcs.
6.   iii.   WILLIAM YARDLEY, b. Abt. 1763, Old Swinford Worcs; d. January 1813, Old Swinford Worcs.
7.   iv.   JOHN YARDLEY, b. Abt. 1766, Old Swinford Worcs; d. March 1820, Lye Waste Wollescote Worcs.
8.   v.   THOMAS YARDLEY, b. Abt. 1768, Old Swinford Worcs; d. Abt. 1836, Lye Worcs.
   vi.   MARY YARDLEY, b. Abt. 1771, Old Swinford Worcs.
   vii.   PHOEBE YARDLEY, b. Abt. 1773, Old Swinford Worcs.
9.   viii.   JOSEPH YARDLEY, b. Abt. 1775, Old Swinford Worcs; d. September 1847, Lye Waste Wollescote Worcs.
   ix.   MARTHA YARDLEY, b. Abt. 1778, Old Swinford Worcs; m. GEORGE WELCH, March 20, 1798, St Mary's Oldswinford Worcs; b. Abt. 1775, Old Swinford Worcs.

Notes for MARTHA YARDLEY:
Witnesses to George and Martha's marriage were Thomas Attwood and Elizabeth Round.