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Researching Family of Bridget Brophy (nee Fenlon) Dublin 1901 census
« on: Tuesday 13 August 13 22:55 BST (UK) »
Looking for some advice.

I found my great grandfather/mother on the 1901 census. (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_City/Capel_Street/1332296/) with their 5 children. There is no record of the family on the 1911 census. I also found a death record & burial for Bridget in 1909, died in the North Dublin union workhouse and buried in Glasnevin.

The question is what happened to the children, particularly Anne who would have been 14 at the time of the 1911 census (so not married and therefore no change of name).

My assumption is either death or emigration. Am I correct do you think? Where could I search for her. I looked at Ellis Island records and also Australian 1911 census records with no luck.

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Re: Researching Family of Bridget Brophy (nee Fenlon) Dublin 1901 census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 August 13 23:56 BST (UK) »
People in institutions (workhouses, hospital, school, gaols, army barracks, etc.) should be listed in 1911 census under initials. Have you tried that yet?
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Re: Researching Family of Bridget Brophy (nee Fenlon) Dublin 1901 census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 August 13 00:11 BST (UK) »
I didn't know that was how they were recorded.  I checked for A Brophy but no luck. I will try the rest of the family.

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Re: Researching Family of Bridget Brophy (nee Fenlon) Dublin 1901 census
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 August 13 00:44 BST (UK) »
Initials were used for both first and surname, so Anne Brophy should appear as A. B., etc.
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Re: Researching Family of Bridget Brophy (nee Fenlon) Dublin 1901 census
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 August 13 02:45 BST (UK) »
I think this is Edward - died 8/8/16  'Son of the late William and Bridget Brophy, of Dublin'
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3050675/BROPHY,%20EDWARD
further information I found on Royal Navy War Graves Roll is

DOB - 6 Aug 1892, Dublin, Ireland - Cause of Death "Killed or died by means other than disease, accident or enemy action" He was buried at sea, the location not recorded.
It lists his next of kin as a son named Michael at  21 Upper Gloucester St Dublin.
Any DaS I have seen would at least record the ocean or sea or closest coastline, you could try track where the Juno was in August 1916.

EDIT - just spotted another record that gives his cause of death as 'Accidental Drowning'

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Re: Researching Family of Bridget Brophy (nee Fenlon) Dublin 1901 census
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 August 13 10:09 BST (UK) »
aghadowey

Thanks - that Michael Brophy is my grandfather.

No luck with the searching using just initials - the are three females with the A B initials, born in dublin and RC but none are 14. All are either in hospital or workhouse school. I guess at the time, 14 would be quite old for a girl of working class background to be in a school.

There are 6 Brophy females, 14 y/o, born in dublin and RC but all are daughters of the head of household and none are Anne.

Possible that Anne was adopted? She would have been about 9 when her mother went into the workhouse. How easy would it be to follow an adoption from those times?

Thanks for the advice
Mike

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Re: Researching Family of Bridget Brophy (nee Fenlon) Dublin 1901 census
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 August 13 10:10 BST (UK) »
hasta

Thanks very much. Looks like that is my relative.

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Mike

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Re: Researching Family of Bridget Brophy (nee Fenlon) Dublin 1901 census
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 August 13 10:43 BST (UK) »
Possible that Anne was adopted? She would have been about 9 when her mother went into the workhouse. How easy would it be to follow an adoption from those times?

There was no such thing officially as adoption until much later- in this period it would have been an informal arrangement by family, friends or neighbours to look after a child. If she was taken in by another family she could be listed in 1911 under their surname, as their daughter, etc.

Have you checked to see if Anne could have died after 1901?
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