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Re: A mother for Wilfred Charles EVERITT
« Reply #99 on: Saturday 17 August 13 05:23 BST (UK) »
I wonder about this wee babe's registration at NSW BDM's Sydney (Head) Office in 1881

His surname "Unknown"
His given name "Male Foundling"
His Dad's given name "Unknown"
His Mum's given name "Unknown"

The Registration no. is 310 

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Re: A mother for Wilfred Charles EVERITT
« Reply #100 on: Saturday 17 August 13 06:53 BST (UK) »
Re John James EVERETT, born 1880, mentioned several times already on this thread ....

Australian Town and Country Journal  15 Jan 1881 page 15. (a continuation from page 14, Answers to Correspondents.)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/page/5061546

“ Dubbo asks – Have not some kind ladies provided a home in Sydney for friendless girls, who expect to shortly become mothers; if so, what name and address?   We think the only home for such persons at present is the Benevolent Asylum, Pitt-street south.  There is a Foundling Hospital at Ashfield where such accommodation may be provided, but we cannot say whether such is the case or note.  The secretary of the first, or manager of the latter would do for the addresses”.

Here’s the link (as found on RChat’s NSW Resources board) for Sydney Benevolent Asylum Index to Admissions and Discharges…

Mary Ann EVERETT was admitted 31 May 1876 at age 16.  George Henry EVERETT’s likely birth 9 July 1876.
George Henry EVERETT discharged 13 August 1876.    Mary Ann EVERETT discharged 15 August 1876.

Mary Ann EVERETT admitted 5 August 1880 at age 20
John James EVERETT’s likely birth 31 August 1880
Both Mary Ann and John James EVERETT discharged 1 Nov 1880.

http://www.sydneybenevolentasylum.com/index.php?page=search-index

“.Summary of Results
If you find a POSITIVE match on this index, make a note of the name and date of admission or discharge for the person you have found. Enter these details in the Request Form and we will then provide you with the 'notes' field from our database where available. This can provide further identifying information
  Well, if that was a surname associated with my NSW families in 1880, I would be at least following up to seek the 'notes' field info .....


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Re: A mother for Wilfred Charles EVERITT
« Reply #101 on: Saturday 17 August 13 08:26 BST (UK) »
This  Obituary for THOMAS moves swiftly over its mention of his wife ;D ;D :-X


Also interesting the way his 'experience' with horses is highlighted  ;)

Albury Banner and Wodonga Express    11 August 1933


Mr. Thomas James Everitt, who died at the Wangaratta Hospital at tho age of '85 years, was born at Howlong. In his younger days he was an expert horseman. He was a good judge of horses, and bought, horses for India. Mr. Everitt for the past 19 years had lived at Kilfeera. His wife predeceas ed him many years ago.

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Re: A mother for Wilfred Charles EVERITT
« Reply #102 on: Saturday 17 August 13 09:03 BST (UK) »
I do agree with JM that the info from the Sydney Benevolent Home would be worth following up but I  think that this is the death of that child:

Death 1880, NSW, #2720
John J EVERETT
Mother's Name:   Mary A

Judith
 
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: A mother for Wilfred Charles EVERITT
« Reply #103 on: Saturday 17 August 13 10:48 BST (UK) »
From this 1924 cutting, we can clearly see that Harriett was a business woman, a Nurse at Toora.  I think the 1903 Electoral Roll has same occupation for her.   

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4365155  The Argus 10 May 1924
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4678805  The Argus, 22 March 1922

Here is Nurse Everitt in 1908 at Euroa
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/65620687  Euroa Advertiser 29 May 1908

Here is Nurse Everitt’s private hospital in 1903 at Euroa
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/65641839 Euroa Advertiser 20 March 1903

Speculating if I may ….  So perhaps back at Howlong in 1880/1 Harriett knew the ‘big picture’   perhaps Harriett was the midwife at the birth of Wilfred, but I cannot see Thomas being her long term live in husband.   

Sue found these Obit cuttings previously:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/58086679  30 May 1929 Kilmore Free Press (Harriett)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/102274739  11 August 1933 Albury Banner (Thomas)

Whoever supplied that info to the Albury Banner in August 1933 obviously was not aware that Thomas’ wife predeceased him only FOUR years previously, and that she was clearly NOT at Kilfeera when he had been living there throughout the 1920s.  I can speculate that whoever provided that info in 1933 was basing it on info Thomas had shared with them previously.   ….

 
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Re: A mother for Wilfred Charles EVERITT
« Reply #104 on: Sunday 18 August 13 11:06 BST (UK) »
Well, if that was a surname associated with my NSW families in 1880, I would be at least following up to seek the 'notes' field info

I'll let you know the response when it comes.

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Re: A mother for Wilfred Charles EVERITT
« Reply #105 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 23:18 BST (UK) »
I have received the response from the operaters of the Sydney Benevolent Society Asylum Database, which is privately run and not actually connected to the Benevolent Society.

There is only a small amount of extra information on the repsone that is not already shown in the search function.

The child George Henry was not just discharged on 13 August 1876, he died that day.

On her second admission in 1880 Mary Ann is shown as Native, which by the definition supplied with the record denotes born in Australia rather than Aboriginal.

According to the response, obtaining copies of the full records comes at a cost, but may not actually reveal any further details. Even researching the information yourself at the Mitchell Library  requires payment of an access fee to the Society.

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Re: A mother for Wilfred Charles EVERITT
« Reply #106 on: Thursday 22 August 13 07:01 BST (UK) »
So it looks like you will need to actually seek out some documents from official records to help you advance your quest.   Of course these will involve you spending some pennies.

On her second admission in 1880 Mary Ann is shown as Native, which by the definition supplied with the record denotes born in Australia rather than Aboriginal.

Yes, Native means exactly that, born in the same colony/state/country that the person currently resides in.   So, for example, on Convict records it shows their "NP"  ie their Native Place, the place where they believe they came from (born/ raised from a young age)   On the passenger lists for the Bounty Schemes, Native Place often shows the village and the county.  So, on NS Wales records, Native therefore refers to people born in N S Wales to parents born elsewhere, or to parents born in N S Wales.   It does not, of itself, give any indication of a person's race.

So it makes good sense to consider that the 1880 record is most likely indicating that Mary Ann EVERETT, the lass aged 20, a  mother, and a "Native" was simply born in the colony, ie born in N S Wales, in 1860 ish.     

NSW BDM online index has a Mary A S EVERETT birth registered that may be of interest to help you confirm or eliminate the lass as a potential mother for Wilfred.   Registered in 1859 to Alfred and Amelia. #973.  Registered in Sydney.Alfred and Amelia seem to have had a number of children.

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Re: A mother for Wilfred Charles EVERITT
« Reply #107 on: Sunday 12 July 15 13:16 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vpr/

Thursday 15 April 1886 

A death notice which is interestingly worded as it makes no mention of the father of this child.

It is interesting, but it was in the Kilmore paper, so may have been placed by Harriet's family and intended for people who ddin't know Thomas.  Also mentions Harriet's father as the "late grandfather" but makes no mention of her mother

Quote from: sparrett
There are news item which mention a THOMAS EVERITT and they are generally concerned with horse stealing in the Howlong area.  One item mentions his "brother LUKE"

This is Thomas senior.  Luke is a brother of Thomas, John and Edward.  One of the articles made me smile - published in 1885 it reports Thomas' confession to horse stealing in 1868, and is headlined "Horse Stealing In The Old Days".  Funny to think that in 1885 they already thought of 1868 as the "old days".

The impression I get is that the first generation of Everitt sons were typical "wild colonial boys".  Google the 100 mile horse race at Howlong for more adventures of Tom (Thomas) and Jack (John Joseph).  That one even made international news - well, it was reprinted in a New Zealand paper, anyway.


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Obituary

The few old friends left will regret to hear of the death of Mrs Harriet Everitt, which occurred on 18th instant at Toora. Deceased lady was a native of Kilmore ,and daughter of an old business man, Mr Samuel Evans,. who was amongst the earliest townsmen here.
 Thursday 30 May 1929

Again, oddly no mention of Mrs Evans.

This is a bit late I know, and not sure if you've already made mention of this, but the wife of Samuel Evans was Bridget Mary Ann McCarthy, born abt 1834 in Co. Waterford, Ireland. Came to Melbourne as a famine orphan in 1849 aboard the 'New Liverpool' at the age of 15, engaged by John Watson in Melbourne for a year as a domestic servant and later married Samuel Evans in 1851, they had twelve children together and she died 1875 in Kilmore. Marriage and Death certs. attached. I also have certificates for Harriett and her son Samuel Joseph Everitt, whom is my Great-Great Grandfather.