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Margaret Stewart 1848 West Derby
« on: Sunday 11 August 13 19:47 BST (UK) »
I'm looking to order birth cert/s for Margaret Stewart, born 1848, West Derby. There are two to choose from.

Just looked up the register books on Ancestry and the two entries both have the same ledger number:
Jul-Sept Vol 20, Page 1002
Oct-Dec Vol 20, Page 1002

Is it likely they are the same girl?

There are also two Charles Stewarts born W.Derby 1846, both Apr-June but with different ledger numbers.
West Lancashire - Leatherbarrow, Hunter, Sherman, Formby, Caunce, Cookson, Wright, Finch, Roughley, Sutch, Almond, Parr, Lea, Smith, Wignal, Marsh, Lovelady
Liverpool - Cottam, Candeland, Stewart, Breen, Owens, Wiseman, Johnson, Cross
Cheshire - Monks, Candeland, Cottam
Co. Durham - Palmer, Adamson
Shropshire - Huffa
Wales - Owens. Ireland - Breen, Wiseman

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Re: Margaret Stewart 1848 West Derby
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 August 13 20:51 BST (UK) »
. see my reply below
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Re: Margaret Stewart 1848 West Derby
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 August 13 20:54 BST (UK) »
I've checked the full GRO index and the entry does appear as stated in both quarters
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Re: Margaret Stewart 1848 West Derby
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 August 13 22:45 BST (UK) »
Wonder if there's facility to submit a 'note' with an online order to GRO? Then I could note that these could be the same person? I'd do a local order (I've heard they check these things) but she does not appear on LancsBMD which is still patchy as regards births in the Liverpool area. I know her father's name, but I'm after finding her mother's name.
West Lancashire - Leatherbarrow, Hunter, Sherman, Formby, Caunce, Cookson, Wright, Finch, Roughley, Sutch, Almond, Parr, Lea, Smith, Wignal, Marsh, Lovelady
Liverpool - Cottam, Candeland, Stewart, Breen, Owens, Wiseman, Johnson, Cross
Cheshire - Monks, Candeland, Cottam
Co. Durham - Palmer, Adamson
Shropshire - Huffa
Wales - Owens. Ireland - Breen, Wiseman


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Re: Margaret Stewart 1848 West Derby
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 August 13 23:10 BST (UK) »
You say you know her fathers name - have you checked the 1851 for her?  There is a 2yr old birthplace West Derby with parents Thomas & Catherine
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Re: Margaret Stewart 1848 West Derby
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 August 13 20:23 BST (UK) »
You say you know her fathers name - have you checked the 1851 for her?  There is a 2yr old birthplace West Derby with parents Thomas & Catherine

Yes, cheers Carole, I have spotted that one. He father is named Thomas Stewart on her marriage cert, and she also had a daughter who she gave the first names "Catherine Stewart" (I think this is particularly a Scots tradition to pass on the mother's maiden surname as a middle name), so I am just about as certain as it's possible to be that this is her in 1851. I have a possible name for her mother but of course need her birth cert for accuracy.
West Lancashire - Leatherbarrow, Hunter, Sherman, Formby, Caunce, Cookson, Wright, Finch, Roughley, Sutch, Almond, Parr, Lea, Smith, Wignal, Marsh, Lovelady
Liverpool - Cottam, Candeland, Stewart, Breen, Owens, Wiseman, Johnson, Cross
Cheshire - Monks, Candeland, Cottam
Co. Durham - Palmer, Adamson
Shropshire - Huffa
Wales - Owens. Ireland - Breen, Wiseman

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Re: Margaret Stewart 1848 West Derby
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 August 13 22:51 BST (UK) »
I think this is her parents marriage but appreciate it needs to be confirmed from her birth cert

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN9C-QV3

I know you can ring/email the GRO to order certs or make enquiries so perhaps that might be an option in view of the double entries

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp
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Re: Margaret Stewart 1848 West Derby
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 August 13 22:48 BST (UK) »
I think this is her parents marriage but appreciate it needs to be confirmed from her birth cert

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN9C-QV3

I know you can ring/email the GRO to order certs or make enquiries so perhaps that might be an option in view of the double entries

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp

I'm very suspicious that's her parents' marriage - there's also a tradition of names being passed on in the family Margaret made with her husband and one of them is Charles, not at all a name from his family. There's this marriage record, plus there's also a Charles and Catherine McCool in a household in the 1841 census. So I'm hopeful I've found some answers. I admit  McCool sounds an interesting name to do further searches on, so crossing fingers  ;)

Only the certs will prove it and I've got an order in now.
West Lancashire - Leatherbarrow, Hunter, Sherman, Formby, Caunce, Cookson, Wright, Finch, Roughley, Sutch, Almond, Parr, Lea, Smith, Wignal, Marsh, Lovelady
Liverpool - Cottam, Candeland, Stewart, Breen, Owens, Wiseman, Johnson, Cross
Cheshire - Monks, Candeland, Cottam
Co. Durham - Palmer, Adamson
Shropshire - Huffa
Wales - Owens. Ireland - Breen, Wiseman

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Re: Margaret Stewart 1848 West Derby
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 August 13 23:20 BST (UK) »
Did you manage to sort the double entry out with the GRO
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