Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied

[doddsie4]

         It is all very well you folk with a private tree saying that all someone has to do is to ask you politely for details about a person and you will tell them - but your answer will never reveal the full picture.     We won't see the actual Timeline of the person we ask about, which would probably give the full, rounded  picture of that person's life.     

       ...The person asking for the information may never be told the names of all children involved, may never get to know if any of them went to Australia, Canada, NZ, or USA, and may never know if anyone was married several times.      When asking for information about someone from a Private tree, do we really get everything that we would really love to know?

        No, all we usually get back, (if we are lucky, because sometimes we get no answer at all), is a brief answer to our question and that's all.     We won't know about all the extra information on the Timeline.      Someone with a Public Tree reveals all this at a glance on every Timeline of every ancestor, often accompanied with birth, marriages, and death certificates, not to mention images of Ships Passenger Lists, gravestones, etc etc etc  -  but folk with a Private tree aren't willing let us see their work at all.

       I am not shouting folks.     Too old for that.      Just explaining my point of view. 

       P.S.    I don't mind folk taking images or information from my tree, it is just that I would like to see theirs too.

[groom]

Someone with a Public Tree reveals all this at a glance on every Timeline  of every ancestor, often accompanied with birth, marriages, and death certificates, not to mention images of Ships Passenger Lists, gravestones, etc etc etc  -  but folk with a Private tree aren't willing let us see their work at all.

Doesn't this spoil the fun of genealogy for you, having all that handed to you on a plate? I would much prefer to find this out for myself rather than just copy others' research. I am quite willing to share my work with anyone who can show a connection, but I can also quite understand why others don't like the idea of all their hours of research and money spent on certificates etc just being copied and added to other trees in minutes.

[Jomot]

         It is all very well you folk with a private tree saying that all someone has to do is to ask them politely for details about a person and you will tell them - but your answer will never reveal the full picture.     We won't see the actual Timeline of the person we ask about, which would probably give the full, rounded  picture of that person's life.     
     

Quite an assumption there doddsie.   I recently contacted someone with an online tree (not Ancestry) to freely & without request give them information they did not have, taking them back four more generations.  I also contacted a private tree holder who was clearly researching the same family as me and did the same.  And yes, my tree is private for reasons given above.   manners cost nothing, and sorry if you don't think they are important, but I do.

[IgorStrav]

         It is all very well you folk with a private tree saying that all someone has to do is to ask them politely for details about a person and you will tell them - but your answer will never reveal the full picture.     We won't see the actual Timeline of the person we ask about, which would probably give the full, rounded  picture of that person's life.     

       ...The person asking for the information may never be told the names of all children involved, may never get to know if any of them went to Australia, Canada, NZ, or USA, and may never know if anyone was married several times.      When asking for information about someone from a Private tree, do we really get everything that we would really love to know?

        No, all we usually get back, (if we are lucky, because sometimes we get no answer at all), is a brief answer to our question and that's all.     We won't know about all the extra information on the Timeline.      Someone with a Public Tree reveals all this at a glance on every Timeline  of every ancestor, often accompanied with birth, marriages, and death certificates, not to mention images of Ships Passenger Lists, gravestones, etc etc etc  -  but folk with a Private tree aren't willing let us see their work at all.

       I am not shouting folks.     Too old for that.      Just explaining my point of view. 

       P.S.    I don't mind folk taking images or information from my tree, it is just that I would like to see theirs too.

Sorry - but just to say I always share my Private tree with my connections, thus revealing all the information you mention above.

Added:  I really had no idea that my decision to keep my research Private for my own family and connections upset people so much - I'm happy to share with connections, and always have done, and it is great when people add comments to the tree, or correct me with new information.

I've found cousins, shared with them, researched with them, introduced them to this site......goodness me, how selfish have I been!

[Regorian]

I don't know whether I provoked this run of posts, but you have the wrong end of the stick, in fact the wrong stick. Only reason I had not released family tree in any way is because I have only got back to 1740. Regrettably, it may well be as far back as I can go. The relevant entries to go further back are just not there.

On another Site a man posted re our family. I immediately replied, sending him the results of my efforts over 20 years, ie the tree. Hardly the action of a mean minded person. He is descended from one of my grandfathers brothers. I regularly have lunch with another member of his branch who lives in the same town as me. This man corresponds with the 2nd cousin I lunch with but leaves me out of the loop.   



 

[Dave Dee]

         It is all very well you folk with a private tree saying that all someone has to do is to ask you politely for details about a person and you will tell them - but your answer will never reveal the full picture.     We won't see the actual Timeline of the person we ask about, which would probably give the full, rounded  picture of that person's life.     

       ...The person asking for the information may never be told the names of all children involved, may never get to know if any of them went to Australia, Canada, NZ, or USA, and may never know if anyone was married several times.      When asking for information about someone from a Private tree, do we really get everything that we would really love to know?

        No, all we usually get back, (if we are lucky, because sometimes we get no answer at all), is a brief answer to our question and that's all.     We won't know about all the extra information on the Timeline.      Someone with a Public Tree reveals all this at a glance on every Timeline of every ancestor, often accompanied with birth, marriages, and death certificates, not to mention images of Ships Passenger Lists, gravestones, etc etc etc  -  but folk with a Private tree aren't willing let us see their work at all.

       I am not shouting folks.     Too old for that.      Just explaining my point of view. 

       P.S.    I don't mind folk taking images or information from my tree, it is just that I would like to see theirs too.

Well said, doddsie4, agree with everything you say. Couldn't have put it better.

Although I say all hail to those private tree owners who are willing to share everything, I just cannot see the point of keeping everything under wraps, simply because you don't want anyone else automatically sharing in the goodies you possess. It's a bit reminiscent of when we were children, not sharing our sweets with the other kids. Is it ME?

[Jomot]

It's a bit reminiscent of when we were children, not sharing our sweets with the other kids. Is it ME?

Depends if the other kids asked or just came and took them off you.   

[Dave Dee]

On another Site a man posted re our family. I immediately replied, sending him the results of my efforts over 20 years, ie the tree. Hardly the action of a mean minded person. He is descended from one of my grandfathers brothers. I regularly have lunch with another member of his branch who lives in the same town as me. This man corresponds with the 2nd cousin I lunch with but leaves me out of the loop.   

You have my sympathy. That is atrocious behaviour on his part, especially as he's related to you. Some family members can be like that.

[Dave Dee]

It's a bit reminiscent of when we were children, not sharing our sweets with the other kids. Is it ME?

Depends if the other kids asked or just came and took them off you.   

Hehe, comparison noted. Grinning.