Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied

[Ringrose]

Nothing is private and I would not put my tree on Ancestry .I would not want it copied even though Ive checked everything.For some its a way of not doing any research.I have contacted some tree members but only when Im sure they are genuine and not just collectors and admit I have made useful contacts.There are many trees with hundreds of pictures and I often wonder what is the point of it all.
My research has cost m a lot of money and time and I don't want others pinching it.Am I being mean.
Ringrose

[iluleah]

Nothing is private and I would not put my tree on Ancestry .I would not want it copied even though Ive checked everything.For some its a way of not doing any research.I have contacted some tree members but only when Im sure they are genuine and not just collectors and admit I have made useful contacts.There are many trees with hundreds of pictures and I often wonder what is the point of it all.
My research has cost m a lot of money and time and I don't want others pinching it.Am I being mean.
Ringrose

Of course you are not being mean, you are looking after what you are done. If when I do a display in a public space of textile art work someone fancied taking some of it I would be upset, many of those displays also have no photographs allowed and that is because textile students will copy work and pass it off as their own and not original work( and yes it has happened), some silly students at one end of course examination had several copies of my work in their final pieces, trouble is they didn't know I was moderating their finals.... that is no different to copying someones FH research and passing it off as their own

[panic]

Some people do research for their own benefit, some want to share with others.

We all face a choice, publish or not. One advantage of publishing is that you may get more information from others that way - there is no guarantee any research is 100% accurate and someone else could hold information to help over a brick wall or highlight a wrong branch you've gone down.

[snowyw]

I recently found photos of my great grandmother and several siblings on several Ancestry trees.  I had shared them with one person privately who I had been in contact with through GenesReunited.  I did ask for them not to be shared publicly.  I have written to her - no reply.  I got two replies from others.  One said he would remove the photos, the other gave this reply.

"This information is open public record as are any photos or records so recorded. I am going to have to decline your request."

I replied saying he had received (or copied?) from a third party and they were actually my photos.  No reply. 

[msr]

Hi Snowyw, good to see you again

Sounds very much like my problem, this person even has photos of me, and did have some of my daughters although after a lot of wrangling they were removed, whether by her or Ancestry I still don't know.

Are you sure that your person is a he?  Sounds very much like the woman in Aus who has almost 92000 people on her tree, and I can tell you that she is not related to any of my relatives she has collected.

Don't hold your breath!

[panic]

Photos aren't public and subject to copyright. Sites like ancestry should pay more attention and allow take-down notices. Unfortunately unless they get hit with legal action threats, people will just refuse.

Maybe you could send ancestry a takedown request
http://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-DMCA-Take-Down-Request

though if its just used on a tree it would be a case of showing that ancestry are earning money if it comes up in searches - just being on a tree for own research is deemed fair use

You are allowed to take short extracts of works when the use is for research that you do not make any money from or for private study, for educational courses or even for use in connection with a hobby. Such use is only permitted when it is 'fair dealing'.

The purpose of this exception is to provide students and non-commercial researchers more access to copyright works. In assessing whether your use of the work is permitted or not you must assess if there is any financial impact on the copyright owner because of your use. Where the impact is not significant, the use may be acceptable.

[snowyw]

I have just posted on Ancestry's facebook page and had a very quick response.  I'll keep you posted!

[msr]

I've been thinking of doing that myself Snowyw, but 'she' is on fb too.  I know that as she uses the same photo on both.

Not sure I want her knowing my identity as she was a bit obnoxious on the Ancestry Connect, before she blocked my messages that is.

I will watch with interest though.

[groom]

Not sure I want her knowing my identity as she was a bit obnoxious on the Ancestry Connect, before she blocked my messages that is.

Your other option msr, is to create a new FB page with an unidentifiable name and a new email address.