John Lane and Mary Farrell married 28-9-1854 Adelaide

[Bob_SA_Oz]

I am seeking information on my great great grandparents.  They married on 28 Sep 1854 in Gawler Place, Adelaide, South Australia and lived in Rosewater.  Mary was 23 y-o spinster and John was 27 y-o batchelor and labourer.  I do not know their counties of birth or times of arrival in South Australia except for a comment in her death notice that she arrived in the colonies in 1853.  The notice also asked Melbourne papers to copy so I presume she had relatives or friends living in Victoria.  Mary died 17 Jan 1882 in Rosewater, and John died 10 Jan 1898 in Clarke Street Rosewater.  His occupation was listed as stevedore on the death certificate.  The birth certificate for William Henry indicated John's occupation was mariner.

Mary and John Lane had four children (William Henry born 10 Mar 1867 Rosewater died 01 Sep 1947 College Park, Eliza born 26 Dec 1861 in Port Adelaide, John born 27 Jul 1859 Alberton died 01 Feb 1903 Adelaide, Edward born 29 Mar 1864 Rosewater died 13 Sep 1947 Gawler).  William Henry Lane (my great grandfather) married Jane Louise Payne 27 Sep 1893.

Thanks

Bob

[sparrett]

This comes from the Biographical Index of South Australia.  Not always correct!!

John Lane’s parents were  Charles and Mary (HANLON) and he was born 28/2/1834 at Wil Eng. He lived at Meadows , Mt Torrens  and was Roman Catholic. He married  21/4/1856 in Willunga  to  Mary (FARRELLY) who was born about 1832 and died 17/1/1882 at Rosewater .

Children-

James 1859 -1937
John-1860 -194Thomas 1862-
Robert 1864-
Eliza Jane (O’CONNOR)  1866-
Walter Henry-1868-1952
Richard Edward-1870
Mary Florence (BEATON) 1873-1937

Sue

[tedscout]

From the marriage register Mary's Maiden name was Farrell

[Bob_SA_Oz]

Thanks Sue (sparret).  To be honest, I am not entirely sure which couple (John Lane and Mary Farrelly married 1856 in Willunga, and John Lane and Mary Farrell married 1854 in Adelaide) are my gg grandparents.  I have traced the history of both and the evidence points more to the second couple.  Here are some of my earlier notes on these people:-

1. John Lane is given as father of William Henry Lane born 10 March 1867 at Rosewater; mother was Mary Farrell; vol 50 page 579
2. John Lane is given as father of Henery Lane marriage 27 September 1893 to Jane Louisa Payne, father Thomas Payne, at Port Adelaide vol 176 page 1093
3. John Lane married 21 April 1856 to Mary Farley at Willunga, vol 25 page 152 - no direct relation (see comments on Charles and Maria Lane)
4. Record above conflicts with John Lane marriage 28 September 1854 to Mary Farrell, at Gawler Place Adelaide, vol 19 page 69
5. jellytree2010 family tree indicates John Lane married 21-4-1856 at Willunga to Mary Farrelly, children James Lane 1859-1937 and Eliza Jane Lane 1866-1899
6. jellytree2010 indicates Mary Farrelly died 17 January 1882 in Rosewater - This is refuted by book about Lanes in Australia  Maria died in 1916 in Millicent.

Who is my 2nd great grand father?  Assume for now that he was John Lane married in Adelaide to Mary Farrell since is was not John Lane son of Charles Lane and Maria Adlam.  The book "The family of Charles and Maria Lane in Australia, 1804-2004" contains clear evidence that I am not related to this family through John Lane married to Mary Farrell.

This bears out your comment about Biographical Index of South Australia.  Not always correct!!

Bob

[sparrett]

Hi Bob,
I am not well-resourced in S A data.
Others here at Rchat are much better equipped to help you.

I would suggest though that relying on the published works of other people can be misleading and confusing.

The correct pathway will be your own searching and the use of as much original documentation as possible.

Sue

[Bob_SA_Oz]

Thanks again Sue (sparret).  I am learning the hard way that "factual information" can be misleading.  Hopefully, there are people researching Lane and Farrell who will spot these posts and offer leads.

Bob

[Essie]

Hi Bob

The LANE couple at Meadows and Mt Torrens did not have a son named Wiliam Henry born 10 Mar 1867.  So your ancestors are John LANE and Mary FARRELL who only ever lived in the Port Adelaide district.

Essie

[cando]

I agree with Sue

A couple of possible arrivals......I cannot see a Mary FARRELL arriving in 1853 bearing in mind that ages on passenger lists are now always correct. Info in death notices [and death certs] is only as good as the knowledge of the informant.  Could by husband's family in Vic or her children.

 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/epaminondas1852.shtml
FARRELL   Mary   23   Servant & Milkmaid       Clare
               
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/taymouthcastle1854.shtml
FARRELL   Mary   23   Servant       England

John's occupation mariner may indicate he arrived as ship's crew.

Cando

[cando]

As mentioned by Sue and according the the birth registration there are two couples John LANE and Mary FARRELL and John LANE and Mary FARLEY.

Births

LANE John
27 Jul 1859
Father Jane [sic] LANE  Mother Mary FARRELL
At  Alberton  Ade 15/157

LANE Eliza
26 Dec 1861
Father John LANE  Mother Mary FARRELL
At Port Adelaide  Ade 20/257

LANE William Henry
10 Mar 1867
Father John LANE  Mother Mary FARRELL
At Rosewater   Ade 50/579

Cando