1881 Census help required please

[lizdb]

Christening
26 April 1846
St Stephens Coleman Str, City of London

George Lulman, bn 24 Jan 1846, son of George and Ann of 33 Worship Street, Victualler

[LizzieL]

Here's your family in 1841


LULHAM, Jane      50   Licensed Victualler   Surrey
LULHAM, George      26   Coal Man      Surrey
LULHAM, Julia      24   Surrey
LULHAM, Thomas      18   Engineer      Surrey
LANCASTER, Edwin   24   HatterSurrey
LANCASTER, Sarah   20            Surrey
KELLY, James      22   Timber Merchant    Surrey
SIBLEY, Thomas      21   M.S.          Surrey


Piece:1067
Book/Folio:4/25
Page: 2     
Registration District: Rotherhithe
Civil Parish: St Mary Rotherhithe
Municipal Borough:
Address: Neptune Street, Upper, St Mary Rotherhithe
County: Surrey

George the coal man (presumably single and living with widowed mother) becomes a licensed victualler by 1851, so looks like the father of George (Rosa and Charlotte's father)

[lizdb]

They also have a Henry chr at same church on 16 Jan 1848 (bn 27 Sep 1847)
Their address now 64 London Wall

[LizzieL]

1851


LULHAM, George   Head   Married      37   Victualler   Surrey
LULHAM, Ann   Wife   Married      28         London
LULHAM, Ann   Daughter      1      London
LULHAM, George   Son         5      Norton Folgate
LULHAM, Henry   Son         3      London
ROSS, John   Visitor   Unmarried   36      Gentleman Coachman   Docking, Surrey
LULHAM, Henry   Brother   Unmarried   33   Cheesemonger   Surrey
MARTIN, Mary Ann   Servant   Unmarried   17   Domestic Servant   London
SMITH, Robert   Servant   15   1836   Potman   London

Piece:1532

Folio:222

Page: 19     

Registration District: City of London

Civil Parish: All Hallows London Wall

Municipal Borough: London

Address: 64, London Wall White House, All Hallows London Wall, London

County: Middlesex

[LizzieL]

Looks like George senior from family search, date and place about right and mother called Jane so ties in with 1841 census

Name:George Lulham
Christening Date: 16 Jan 1814
Christening Place: ST MARY,ROTHERHITHE,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1813
Father's Name:Thomas Lulham
Mother's Name:Jane

So next step is find marriage of Thomas and Jane

[LizzieL]

From FindMyPast

Thomas  Lulham
Burial 17 Feb 1841
Age at Death:49
Address: Neptune Street
Buried:Rotherhithe, Surrey

So he didn't quite make the 1841 census. If agae at death is accurate, he wouls be born around 1791/2.

[natterjack]

I'm speechless... I'm trying to find the marriage myself - but so far with no luck again.

I think once I complete this.. I'm going to start on the Lulham's in Sussex on my husbands side - to see if anything meets up - as they had at some point lived in London - so may be connected further back.

Good luck to finding the marriage, if of course any one is up for it... my sources are presently blank.

Excellent details about Thomas's death - shame but such is life.

Many thanks again and kind regards.

Natterjack

[lizdb]

Thomas and Jane had the following children chr at Rotherhithe St Mary -

George 16 Jan 1814
Julia Jane 11 Feb 1816
Sarah Jane 23 July 1820
Thomas 18 Aug 1822

Dad Thomas is a Sawyer in each instance.

On one of them he is described as Thomas junior (Julia's I think it was) which implies there is an older Thomas Lulham around in the parish.

[lizdb]

Possible marriage for Thomas and Jane

26 Oct 1813
Stepney St Dunstan and All saints

Thomas Lulham , bachelor of Poplar to Jane Wilbourne, spinster of Poplar