1881 Census help required please

[natterjack]

Hiya,

I am struggling to find a family on the 1881 Census.  I'm using both Ancestry and FamilySearch with no success on either.

I am looking for the family of Rose Henrietta Lulham born September quarter 1879 in Edmonton.  Her parents were George Lulham and Elizabeth Jane Hobbs, who married in September quarter 1869 in Shoreditch.

I found them on the 1871 Census in Enfield, Edmonton using FamilySearch with a daughter Charlotte born 1870/1871 and I would like to see if the family are together on the 1881 Census - to confirm they are the same family with Rose present.  If this is the case, it looks like two brothers' married two sisters' - from details I have found on the 1911 Census and looking into these brother's marriages. 

I would also be interested to see if they had a brother also named George Lulham born circa 1874 from the Enfield area.  Though I suppose he could be a cousin.  And of course any other siblings to Rose.

I hope someone will be able to help me, as I am on the verge of pulling my hair out.... Lol.

Many thanks in advance.

Natterjack

[josey]

Transcribed as Sulham [on 1851, 1861, 1871 also] on Ancestry
Not the 1881 but the 1891 piece 1087 fol 6 p 6
George 46
Elizabeth 45
George 18
Thomas 16
Charles 14
Rosa 12
Elizabeth 4
Reynolds Cottage, Russell Road, Enfield

[rosie99]

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3L3-D7D

[LizzieL]

I found these on FindMyPast, transcribed as "Fulham"

FULHAM, George      Head      Married   36   Gunsmith Out Of Employ   London Wall, Middlesex
FULHAM, Elizabeth   Wife      Married   35   Laundress      Enfield, Middlesex
FULHAM, Charlotte   Daughter   Single   10   Scholar         Enfield, Middlesex
FULHAM, George      Son      Single   8   Scholar         Enfield, Middlesex
FULHAM, Thomas      Son      Single   6   Scholar         Enfield, Middlesex
FULHAM, Charles      Son      Single   3            Enfield, Middlesex
FULHAM, Rosa      Daughter   Single   1            Enfield, Middlesex


Piece:1393
Folio:73
Page: 7     
Registration District: Edmonton
Civil Parish: Enfield
Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Forty Hill, Reynolds Row, Enfield
County: Middlesex
 

[lizdb]

1881 are indexed Fulham on Ancestry

RG 11 1393 73 7

( hint - I found them by just putting Ros*, birth 1879 +/- 2 yrs, bn Enfield, parents George and Eliza*)


Red writing - snap LizzieL

[natterjack]

Thank you so much.

I suppose the next step for me would be to look at the father pre 1871 to get his details of parents and siblings.

The reason for this is because I have come across the name of Lulham in my husband's family tree... and I am interested to find out if any of these Lulham's have connections to Sussex and if they could be traced/linked to each other.  Hence it might be interesting to see the earlier census's. 

Oh well, hopefully in time.  At least we have now proved the women did marry the brother's - surname Williams who are related to me through a family marriage.  I started out doing this for a family member, now I want to do it as part of my own research into my husband's family... just incase I can find a connection - as I don't think Lulham was or is that common a name.

Thanks again for all the help and many kind regards regards.

Natterjack

[josey]

as I don't think Lulham was or is that common a name.

But commonly mistranscribed - use Sulham on ancestry & also try *lham.

[lizdb]

Marriage
Shoreditch St Leonard
30 Aug 1869

George Lulham 24 bachelor, gunmaker, 30 Grt Cambridge st, father George Lulham victualler
to
Elizabeth Jane Hobbs, spinster, 24, laundress, same address, father Charles James Hobbs gamekeeper

Both signed. Witnesses Theopholis John Palmer and Ellen Palmer

[natterjack]

Thanks for that.

Only knew date of marriage.

Will see if I can find anything new.

Kind regards,

Natterjack