Harry Owens b 1850 Marylebone - help appreciated

[rosie99]

Can't see anything else on census. 

BUT
there is this marriage
Benjamin Thomas Owens (Widower)
Age   44
Spouse Mary Ann Payne
Age   33
13 August 1889
Lambeth - St Philip

Grooms Father Thomas Owens OCC Stone Mason
Brides Father John Payne


Could Benjamin be a brother of Harry 

[jennifer c]

Could be Benjamin 1871 census?

290 Dover Street Lambeth

Mary Owens 55 wid lodger born Trood & Raur Cardiganshire?
Benjamin Owens 25 son Labourer in Oil works born Cripplegate Middlesex
Lodgers with Alfred German 25 born Croydon & Mary Ann 29 born Tadworth and family.

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

1861 census 27 Back Alley Southwark

Mary Owen (no S) 38 or 58? Seed Warehouse Carvenshire
Benjamin Owen son 17 Errand Boy Cripplegate

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

This Benjamin still seems to be living with the German family as a lodger but at a different address in 1881 census.

16 Laytons Grove 35 Single born London.

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

1851 census 5 Providence Place Southwark 1558 fol 237

Thomas Owen 41 Labourer Cardigan
Mary 36 Cardigan
Benjamin 9 City
John 12 hours Surrey
Benjamin Jones? 61 father in law Annuitant no place of birth shown

There is who looks to be an Ivan Jones 21 born Cardigan in the Thomas household above.

Jennifer

[alexnlp]

Fantastic! Thank you - a crack in my brick wall

[rosie17]

Found a Harry aged 7, with his mother Ellen Owens 45 she is widowed also in the house Joseph10.John4,William 1 all born Marylebone they are living 42,Exeter Street Middlesex

[alexnlp]

Yes Rosie17 - I found a baptism for Henry Richard Owens with Ellen as his mother and a Joseph Owens soldier as his father in 1854 in St Marylebone in Middlesex. 
A real shame, as the dates tied up!
It may be that he made up his father's name & occupation on his marriage certificate....

[alexnlp]

Jenniferc
I checked baptisms for children with a father called Thomas Owens, and have one in Hammersmith in 1854 for John Thomas Owens, with the father Thomas and mother said to be Eliza.  I couldn't read the fathers profession, as the digital image was very white all over!
I guess I should look for a death for Mary Owens between 1851 and 1854..