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Bristol Records for Isaac Nation Reeves c. 1831 - 1837
« on: Wednesday 07 August 13 18:09 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

I'm new to this site.  I've been trying to research my 2nd great grandfather, Isaac Nation Reeves, c. 1831-1837.  His father was George Reeves and mother Isabella Daw.  He moved to the US c. 1850 - 1865.  1st wife Anna Maria (maiden name unknown), who died Dec 1874 in Brooklyn, NY.  2nd wife, Susan Elizabeth DDowling, married Brooklyn, NY 1875.  They had a daughter Georgiana Reeves born c. 1876 in Brooklyn, NY.  Isaac died 1890 and Susan died 1891, both in Brooklyn.  Any help or tips on birth/marriage records for Isaac and/or his parents would be much appreciated. 

Thank you,
Dave

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Re: Bristol Records for Isaac Nation Reeves c. 1831 - 1837
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 August 13 19:36 BST (UK) »
Bristol is in two counties; Somerset and Gloucestershire, but is a county in its own right.

I tried to have a look for him in the 1841 and 1851 censuses, but couldn't find anything.

May I ask why you think he was from Bristol?

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Re: Bristol Records for Isaac Nation Reeves c. 1831 - 1837
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 August 13 19:48 BST (UK) »
Bristol is listed as his place of birth on the marriage certificate with his second wife.  That is also where I retrieved his mother's & father's names.
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Re: Bristol Records for Isaac Nation Reeves c. 1831 - 1837
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 August 13 23:57 BST (UK) »
Welcome Dave :)

I had a bit of a scout around but have largely drawn a blank so far.

I saw a tree online (possibly yours) attaching a death notice for Anna Maria who died on 25 December 1874 in her 47th year. This would put her birthdate likely in 1828.  If that is right I wonder whether Isaac was a bit older than he later claimed to be?

Do you have a copy of Anna Maria's Brooklyn death record? I don't know whether that would give a maiden name or birthplace for her...?

Has Isaac been found in any census before 1880?

Have his naturalization records (if any) been obtained? You may have seen the possible index entry.

If Isaac's death certificate gives parents' details, are they consistent with those named when he remarried?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Bristol Records for Isaac Nation Reeves c. 1831 - 1837
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 August 13 02:33 BST (UK) »
Hi and thank you for checking the records for me.  Yes, I suspect you found the obit which I posted for Anna Maria on my Ancestry.com Family Tree (Nelson Family Tree).  Her death certificate does not list her parents, her DOB or place of birth, other than England.  Age is as per certificate, so I approximated 1828.  It noted her as a New York City resident for approximately 5 years (c. 1869), which seems consistent with City Directory entries for Isaac 1869-1888.  (He was a butcher and had a shop in Brooklyn, NY for years.)

Isaac's death certificate also puts his immigration in this period.  (Other than finding an Isaac Reeves in an Naturalization Index, I have had no success in finding naturalization records for him).  I have he, his second wife Susan E. and daughter Georgiana on the 1880 US Census.  Between the census info, his marriage certificate, (which does not list his actual birthday), and his death certificate, I have established the range of his birth c. 1830-1837, since they all record different ages!?  So, it is certainly possible that he is even older, based upon the age of his 1st wife.  (Same problems with his daughter, Georgiana, but that's another story, as per family oral history.)

I was also hoping that I could get a link to, or through, his parents, George Reeves and Isabella Daw, but no luck so far.  Lots of George Reeves' to sort through, and no luck with Isabella Daw.  It generally seems difficult tracking female relatives mid - 19th Century and back.  Again, his parents names and his place of birth are coming form his marriage certificate in 1875.  I would guess his parents were born c. 1810, and have tried running a variety of search parameters through Ancestry.com, without any luck. 

The only other clue I have is a possible son, (or brother) named George, based upon a notation written on the reverse of a period family photograph.  Again, I've tried every search variable and database I could, but still no luck.  As a final aside, family tradition holds that they are related ot a Reeves, (or Peter Reeves) chain of stores in England, but I cannot find any record or reference to such a store or chain online.  Can anyone provide any info regarding the store/chain?

I appreciate everyones help and interest and welcome any tips or references that might help with research, especially in the UK.  We have lots to keep researching in England, Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland, and (understandably and regretfully), a lot of the records seem to have been lost or destroyed over the years.

Thanks again,
Dave

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Re: Bristol Records for Isaac Nation Reeves c. 1831 - 1837
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 August 13 02:35 BST (UK) »
P.S.  regarding the obit for Anna Maria, I also contacted the IOOF (Odd Fellows) in hopes of finding some records, but I was informed any records from her (their) lodge were long lost/destroyed.  I've been trying every link I can find....

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Re: Bristol Records for Isaac Nation Reeves c. 1831 - 1837
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 August 13 08:52 BST (UK) »
Not in England, but have you considered this chain of stores?

www.hometoclare.com/clarepeople/peter-reeves

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Bristol Records for Isaac Nation Reeves c. 1831 - 1837
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 August 13 16:47 BST (UK) »
Much appreciated, thank you.   :)   

This will certainly bear some looking into. I will drop a quick post to let you know how it went.

Thanks, Dave 

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Re: Bristol Records for Isaac Nation Reeves c. 1831 - 1837
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 August 13 17:17 BST (UK) »
Having drawn a blank with REEVES as his original surname, it may be worth having a look at this Isaac NATION, b 1826 in Somerset.

1826 (25 Dec): Date of birth, per baptism record on FreeREG: www.rootschat.com/links/0vlv
1827 (10 Feb): Baptised at Stogumber to parents George (labourer) and Isabella, of Lower Vexford.
1841: In service on a farm in Stogumber, aged 15. HO107/966 bk11 f46 p9.
1846: Possible marriage to Anna KNIGHT, Bedminster Sep qtr 1846 per FreeBMD.
1851: With wife "Hannah" (who is b abt 1828 Bridgewater) - in Wales. HO107/2461/731/24.
1861: With wife "Ann" (b abt 1827 Somerset) in Bristol - Isaac as a tea dealer. RG9/1722/126/29.

Thereafter - he and Ann/Anna/Hannah disappear from English records.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)