PEDEN Hugh b.1628 Scotland d. Antrim (Ballymena?)

[lmgnz]

Hi Jason Mac

Thank you for the marriage details for Matthew Snoddy and Fanny Lynn. So it looks like Fanny was a widow of a Lynn and the daughter of a John Agnew.

Possibly related to her mother in law to be, Jane Agnew. But too many Agnews.

The witness, Ezekiel D Wiley would also have been living in Ballycushion.  Again a possibility is that Fanny was living with the Wileys but was not a daughter of Hugh Wiley, or a sister of Ezekiel.

I don't know Nathaniel William Campbell but I think one of the Presbyterian ministers in the area was a Campbell. Gilby will know.

I do have a group of siblings for my William Lynn of Kilgreel though only have confidence in one, Joseph Lynn b c1814 who died 1894. (I have a DNA match). So Jospeh was not the deceased husband of Fanny. Though I do not know the name of Joseph's wife, his family were born up to the mid 1860s.

Interesting about that other Fanny Lynn. I do have a Lemon middle name in the son of one of my grandfather's Graham cousins but that was because the cousin's wife was the daughter of a William Lemon McKeown b c1853. It looks like his parents were James McKeown and Eliza Lemon of Belfast who married 1850.

[Gilby]

Hmm, intriguing!  What was the exact date of the marriage of Matthew Snoddy to Fanny?

Do either of you know more about this John Lemon family?

I agree it seems Fanny was probably living in the Wiley household.  It ties in with her appearance on the 1831 church census.

There was a John Agnew of Kilgreel who died in 1832.  Executors were Joseph Barron (father-in-law of Ezekiel Wiley) and a John Campbell of Kilgreel:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNR-T946-J?i=103&cat=234657

Campbell connections.  Ezekiel Wiley’s sister-in-law Jennie Barron was married to James McNeilly Campbell (1809-1886), son of the Rev. Robert Campbell (1771-1855) of Templepatrick (he was married to a McNeilly, but I have not yet identified her family).

Robert Campbell was minister of Templepatrick Presbyterian which split in 1830.  He continued to lead the minority of the congregation (non-subscribing), holding on to the old church in the village.  He was semi-retired from 1849 until his death. 

In 1854, a Rev. Robert Campbell junior (1825-1894) took over.  He was the son of a James Campbell, but I have not been able to establish whether he was related to Rev. Robert Campbell senior.  In 1861 he married Elizabeth Simpson (c1840-1875), great granddaughter of Daniel Peden (c1740-c1821) of Ballycraigy – back to the Pedens!

[jason mac]

Marriage of Matthew Snoddy and Fanny Lynn was on 29th October 1836. 

The recording of the marriage details in the register is somewhat unusual.  All the other marriages have the parents names stated.  For Fanny Lynn it has John Agnew but there is a letter or a symbol between John and Agnew.  Also the name of the second witness is not clear, it looks like Nathaniel William but both names are abbreviated in the old style.  I am not convinced that Fanny Lynn had been married before.  She used the name Lynn on subsequent registrations in Templepatrick and in Scotland.  Would a widow who may only have been married for a short time continue to use the surname of her deceased husband?  Could it be she acutally is a Lynn? Perhaps her mother never married John Agnew.  I have no further information regarding the Lemon family  I will have to see if I can trace them.

You mentioned a Dan Peden.  Do you have any information about him?  I have been working on the Peden families around Parkgate/Templepatrick area.  In the Templepatrick registers the Pedens are very strongly associated with Mallusk. 

[Gilby]

Thanks for the date (it had probably been mentioned before but I forgot to put it in my tree).  Who was the minister officiating at the marriage?

I finally got around to putting a sort of timeline together for Fanny.  There are a few gaps because I don’t have all the Scottish records – let me know if you can fill any in!

Timeline:
1828 - Fanny Scott (will of Hugh Wiley)
1831 - Fanny Scott “sister’s daughter”?? (church census with Ezekiel Wiley household)
1836 - Fanny Lynn, daughter of John Agnew? (marriage)
1837 - Fanny Lynn (birth of son Hugh Wiley Snoddy in Ireland)
1840 - Fanny Lynn (birth of son Thomas Snoddy in Ireland)
1843 - Fanny Scott (birth of son William Snoddy in Ireland)
1846 - Fanny Lynn (birth of son James Snoddy in Ireland)
1848 - Fanny Lynn (birth of son Matthew Snoddy in Ireland)
1851 - Fanny Lynn (birth of daughter Jane Snoddy in Ireland)
1854 - Fanny Lynn (birth of daughter Agnes Snoddy in Ireland)
1856 - ____ Lynn (birth of son Joseph Snoddy in Scotland)
1857 - ____ Linn…? (death of son Joseph Snoddy in Scotland)
1858 - ____ Lynn (birth of daughter Frances Snoddy in Scotland)
1860 - ____ Wylie (death of daughter Frances Snoddy in Scotland)
1861 - Francis (Snoddy) (census – aged 42, Portugal Street, Glasgow Gorbals)
1864 - ____ Wylie …? (death of daughter Jane in Hutchesontown, Scotland)
1870 - Frances Wylie (marriage of son James at Old Monkland, Scotland)
1871 - Francis (Snoddy) (census – aged 50, Norfolk Street, Glasgow Gorbals)
1873 - Frances Wylie (marriage of son William at Partick, Scotland)
1879 - Frances Wylie (death of husband Matthew)
1900 - Frances Wylie, daughter of James Wylie and Frances Lynn (death aged 80 in Scotland)

[Gilby]

RE the Pedens, Steve commented on the possible links in post #25 of this thread.  She knows more about the family than me.  I just have them sketched out as follows:

Daniel PEDEN (c1740-1820) of Ballycraigy (Larne), m. Elizabeth BOYLE (possibly 2nd wife, and not mother to all the children)

-   John PEDEN (b. c1764).
-   Robert PEDEN (c1766-1838) of Knowhead, had a son Robert.
-   Elizabeth PEDEN (b. c1777) m. William SIMPSON (see below).
-   James PEDEN.
-   Helena PEDEN m. Thomas SHERIFF.
-   Margaret PEDEN m. Joseph HUNTER.
-   William PEDEN.

See here for brief discussion of Simpson family:
http://www.genealogy.com/forum/regional/countries/topics/ireland/74855/

Two of the Simpson sons married daughters of Robert WILSON of Cogry, Ballyclare.  One of those was Daniel Peden SIMPSON (c1807-1852) whose daughter Elizabeth SIMPSON (c1840-1875) married the Rev. Robert CAMPBELL (c1825-1894) of Templepatrick in 1861.

[lmgnz]

Hi Jason Mac

Interestingly I have just come across a distant DNA match whose only ancestor located close to mine, is someone who has a James Peden as his 4th gt grandfather, born 1787 in Fairview South Carolina, son of a Samuel Peden b c1754 in Co Antrim and died Kemper County,  Mississippi in 1835.

That does not mean I am related to Samuel Peden but he is the only one in my matches tree who was born in Ireland.

[jason mac]

Apologies I have been a bit snowed under with work recently so have not had a chance to respond to original query regarding Fanny Lynn.  I will hunt out certificates and can email them to you if you want them. 

As for Peden's, there are 7 of us on Ancestry who are descendents of the John Snoddy/Eliza Peden line.  We all show a strong connection with a John Peden born 1709 in Broughshane who married a Margaret McDill and emigrated to South Carolina.  We all share a group of dna matches in the 20-30cm range with the descendents of John Peden and Maraget McDill.  We also appear to be linked with a family from Dromore, who ended up in East Belfast.  A look at the occupation listed on the certificates for this family shows a common occupation with the Pedens from Templepatrick - shoemaker.  My guess is the Peden in this line is one of the Templepatrick Pedens.