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Offline Willow 4873

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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 07 August 13 11:41 BST (UK) »
I suppose it was to be expected after nearly 50 years

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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 08 August 13 08:50 BST (UK) »
I suppose it was to be expected after nearly 50 years

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Yes I suppose so, it was worth a try.
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« Reply #65 on: Thursday 08 August 13 10:45 BST (UK) »
I quite agree  ;D

I have been looking for Percival Fredericks about the right age who might tie in with our man as I am not convinced Ball is his surname

There is a Percival Frederick G Hancock born 1903 Plymouth (died 1962 Plymouth) who I cant find on the 1911 census who might fit. The ones from the Staffordshire area I have accounted all for

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« Reply #66 on: Thursday 08 August 13 11:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you Willow.

I've been seeking Percy for sometime now and the thought did occur to me to as he is such a man of mystery. However I was talking to my mother and brother recently we were thinking about uncle George ( Percy's son) and the times when we used to visit him.

 It came about that we remember uncle George finding a clipping in a newspaper around 1990 for a 90th birthday notice for a Percy Ball, apparently uncle George was querying whether this could have been his father. I plan a visit to central archives soon to try and find this clipping!

My feeling is that he 'disappeared' shortly after uncle George was born for reasons of his own, and probably moved to a different area and my even have remarried - possibly a bigamous marriage. Very uncertain as to whether he came from Staffordshire or not.  I hope to have more of an insight when I've been to the archives.
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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 08 August 13 11:43 BST (UK) »
Percy Hancock I think I have found now so it isnt him

The clipping could prove interesting if you can find it I have looked at the deaths for a Percy that lived into his 90's but the only one close are Percival Albert (1899 - 1996 Kingston upon Thames) Thomas Percy (1899 - 1990 Cambridge) Percy Lionel (1902 - 1992 Andover) and a Percival Graham (1903 - 2000 Eastbourne)

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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 08 August 13 12:08 BST (UK) »
Yes that's what I was thinking, to see what if any information can be found from the clipping.
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« Reply #69 on: Thursday 08 August 13 12:11 BST (UK) »
Was the clipping in a Stafford area paper? also I forgot to ask what address Percy gave on the marriage certificate

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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 08 August 13 12:55 BST (UK) »
Was the clipping in a Stafford area paper? also I forgot to ask what address Percy gave on the marriage certificate

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Hi Willow,
I believe it was a local paper, but I was only a small child at the time. The address on the marriage cert is a stoke on trent address, which ties in with the family.
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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 08 August 13 13:08 BST (UK) »
Do you think it's possible that Percival had or used a different middle name before his 1927 marriage? Was he named as  Percival Frederick on his son George's b/c

The only reason I ask is from his m/c you gave his father's occupation Master Butcher, name George

I know this is a bit of a long shot BUT

There’s a Percy Charles Ball born 1903 living Burton On Trent father’s name is Percy George occupation is a butcher

Percy Charles Ball Jan-Feb-Mar 1903 Burton upon Trent Staffordshire  Volume:   6b Page:   434

1901 c RG13; Piece: 2647; Folio: 47; Page: 12
Percy G occ Butcher, Jemima Mary, son Thomas George Ball age 1

1891c RG12; Piece: 2196; Folio: 115; Page: 5
Percy G age 16 Butcher’s apprentice

1881c with his parents George & Maria Ball

Percy George Ball died Burton on Trent 1920

PGB of Stapenhill Derbyshire died 19 Feb 1920
Admin London to Jemima Mary widow Effects £10183 4s.

there is a marriage
1932 Burton
Percy C Ball to E A I Taylor (FreeBMD)

I'm not seeing a death for a Percy Charles / Percy C Ball there is one of the correct age which would match birth year 1943 Wallsall Percy Ball age 40 (1903)

If found I hope the news paper clippings provide more clues to your elusive Percival Frederick Ball
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