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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #72 on: Thursday 08 August 13 13:21 BST (UK) »
Yes the Percy from Burton was one of many I looked at searching especially due to the fact his father was a Butcher.As you say the Butcher died in 1920 it is a possible as Percival F's father a George Ball(Master Butcher) is given as deceased on the marriage cert.

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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 08 August 13 15:00 BST (UK) »
Interestingly there is a Percy Frederick Ball on the 1911 born 1890 who is a chauffer in Longdon

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He is given as 25 years old on the marriage cert.

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What if he was lying about his age on the marriage
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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 08 August 13 15:05 BST (UK) »
Fredereick P Ball married Rita O Benham 1943 Portsmouth

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It may be worth getting this MC, there may be some clues there
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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #75 on: Thursday 08 August 13 15:12 BST (UK) »
I wondered if he was lying about his age too

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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #76 on: Thursday 08 August 13 15:19 BST (UK) »
Interestingly there is a Percy Frederick Ball on the 1911 born 1890 who is a chauffer in Longdon

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It may be worth checking this fellow out, right area and occupation
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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #77 on: Thursday 08 August 13 15:22 BST (UK) »
Well if it was the same Percy who married the Benham he would have been quite a bit older than she was!

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
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All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #78 on: Thursday 08 August 13 15:33 BST (UK) »
Well if it was the same Percy who married the Benham he would have been quite a bit older than she was!

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That's why it would be useful to look at that marriage, and my dad was 25 years older than my mom so it does happen :) :) :)
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Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #79 on: Thursday 08 August 13 16:03 BST (UK) »
I agree Ladyhawk, I do think it's very likely that our Percy changed his name around to suit, He clearly fully intended not to be traced, and he's done an extremely good job of being elusive, so far!

Thinking about it, I only have the information regarding George Ball  on Percival's marriage certificate to Sarah, this may not necessarily be correct. It could be quite possible that the 'George' mentioned on the marriage cert isn't Percy's father but maybe another relation he'd named, or perhaps he didn't know his father very well and was told he was named George and was a master butcher?

 As regard's Percival himself, I think he may have originated from outside the Staffordshire area, and may have left the area after leaving Sarah Ann. If I'm fortunate enough to find the clipping of the 'possibly' correct Percival Ball, I will hopeful have some clue to his origins and family.
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Re: Percival Frederick Ball
« Reply #80 on: Friday 09 August 13 20:31 BST (UK) »
May be worth looking at nearby places, shiffnal, salop, Shropshire.
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