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Offline Georgfriedrich

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Sidney Long
« on: Friday 02 August 13 21:15 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I am trying to get some information on Sidney Long.

I only have him recorded in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.

1901 he is aged eight and living with my great-grandfather Arthur Owen and his partner Emily Jane Owen at 26 Copenhagen Place, Limehouse

1911 he is aged 18 and living at Copenhagen Place with Arthur and Emily.  He has no occupation.  I don't think that he is anything to do with Emily because Arthur wrote that Sidney was his nephew in 1911 and living there at the same time was Henry Brett who Arthur writes is 'wife's brother'...

In both instances he is listed as being Arthur's nephew but there is no one who I can think of in the family who's child he might be and no one married a 'Long'.  I thought about illegitimate children but I can't see why they would disguise his surname. and call him Arthur's nephew.

It is difficult.  :-\

I cannot seem to find anything in the FreeBMD.

I know nothing about him apart from the census returns, and no one ever spoke of someone named Sidney Long being part of the family, however Arthur was somewhat estranged from his children in later life.

Can anyone assist?

Bye for now

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Re: Sidney Long
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 August 13 23:12 BST (UK) »
1901 birthplace is Stepney

There is a Baptism 26.2.1892 St Mary Harrow of Sidney Long parents Charles William & Kate.  Charles was a bricklayer

or from freebmd

Births June qtr 1892
Sidney Long    St. George Hanover Sq.  1a 465
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Re: Sidney Long
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 August 13 23:21 BST (UK) »
There are also a number of Sydney Long births in the London area but with middle names
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Re: Sidney Long
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 August 13 00:35 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the child is something to do with Emily. They were not actually married, were they - was Eliza his lawful wife?

Has anyone from the family been found in 1891?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Sidney Long
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 August 13 00:35 BST (UK) »
How about this....

Arthur's sister Eliza Matilda married James William Standen in 1855.

In 1881 they have a 20 yr old servant Mary A Long, single, born Poplar. Is Sidney hers?

By 1891 Eliza has died and James has another servant.

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Re: Sidney Long
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 August 13 00:52 BST (UK) »
just had a look at ww1 attestation papers of Sidney Frederick Long, address given is 36 Copenhagen Place Limehouse, and his medals were signed for by Arthur Owen & E Owen

He died in 1917

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/519183/LONG,%20S%20F
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Re: Sidney Long
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 August 13 01:29 BST (UK) »
Snap, dawnsh!   You just beat me to it.

According to his service record when he enlisted on 6/5/1915 he was 22 years and 2 mos - which would make him born February/early March 1893.   His next of kin given as his aunt Emily Owen.

Think this could be his birth entry:

Sydney Frederick Long   Jun.qtr.1893 Mile End.

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Re: Sidney Long
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 August 13 10:29 BST (UK) »
Giving Emily as his next of kin infers she is the relative, not Arthur

Emily's sister Rose Annie Brett might be worth investigating further, she married Edward Slomowski in 1886 who died in 1890, leaving her a widow with children. A family tree online suggests she died of TB in 1894 but I can't immediately see the entry under Slomowski or Brett.

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Re: Sidney Long
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 August 13 11:11 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dawnsh on Saturday 03 August 13 10:29 BST (UK)
Giving Emily as his next of kin infers she is the relative, not Arthur

Emily's sister Rose Annie Brett might be worth investigating further, she married Edward Slomowski in 1886 who died in 1890, leaving her a widow with children. A family tree online suggests she died of TB in 1894 but I can't immediately see the entry under Slomowski or Brett.


Perhaps (promisingly) she died as Rosie Annie LONG aged 27, Dec qtr 1894 Stepney 1c 263.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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