William CARMAN/Emma Sarah ADAMS

[ShirleyX]

Is anyone researching this family?

William Carman arrived on the ship Rajasthan at Port Adelaide 6 Feb 1840. I am led to believe he was born Maidstone Kent.

On the same ship were other Carman's - John, Martha (nee Mainwairing), Martha Springate, Thomas, John, Samuel, Elizabeth Ann/Sarah

I'm trying to sort our the relationship of these people to William

The only baptism I could locate for a William in Maidstone Kent was in 1810 to parents Richard and Julia.

I found parents Thomas and Sarah Carman with two children baptised in the area - Elizabeth in 1827 and Thomas James in 1829.

William married Emma in 1844 in Adelaide, Australia, she having arrived on the ship Resource on 23 Jan 1839 at Port Adelaide.

Is this the same William who was a blacksmith who is said to have created the settlement of Kersbrook, near Adelaide and built the Wheatsheaf Inn in 1851.

The children born to William and Emma were:
William born 1845 in Adelaide;
John born 1849 Adelaide, died 1861 at Talunga;
Thomas born 1852 in Adelaide;
Martha Mary born 1855 in Adelaide;
Richard born 1856 at Talunga; Elizabeth born 1859 at Talunga, died before 1861;
Elizabeth Ann born 1861 at Tallunga;
David born 1863 at Talunga, died 1866 at Barossa;
David born 1867 at Barossa; Alfred born 1869 at Gilbert; and
Emily born 1872 at Gilbert, died 1873 at Gilbert.

William I believe died in 1877 at Kielli, near Mundoora, South Australia and Emma died 1917 at Prospect.

I would like to know more about William the blacksmith.

Shirley

[keinname]

According to this family tree John and Martha nee Mainwaring are the parents of William Carman, and Martha Springate, Thomas, John, Samuel, Elizabeth Sarah are his siblings. William is also shown as the father of more children than you have listed. You would need to check the validity of the entries.
http://www.minchinfamily.bigpondhosting.com/495.htm

Perhaps there is something in the SA Pioneers index about the family?

[sparrett]

Shirley, do you have the information from the Biographical Index of South Australia? (BISA)

It is a fair bit of typing, but I am happy to do it if you do not already  have it.

BISA is a starting point for some in their SA research, but it is known to have mistakes and to be incomplete in parts.

Let me know.

Sue

[majm]

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/90944256  Sth Australian Chronicle 1 Sept 1877. 

William Carman, aged 54, leaving widow and eleven children.  A colonist of 38 years.   

Cheers,  JM

[sparrett]

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/90944256  Sth Australian Chronicle 1 Sept 1877. 

William Carman, aged 54, leaving widow and eleven children.  A colonist of 38 years.   

Cheers,  JM

There were possibly 14 births to the couple. Obviously eleven living in 1877. According to BISA....

William-born 1845-died 1924,
Emma HEWETT-born 1847- died1917
John-born 1849- died 1900
Richd-born 1851- died 1851
Thos -born 1852- died 1936
Jas Wardlaw Disher-born 1854- died 1910
Martha Mary-born 1855- died 1949
Richd-born 1856- died 1916
Eliza Springbit BARNES -born  1859- died 1926
Eliz Ann -born 1861- died 1961
David -born 1863- died 1866
David-born 1867- died 1928
Alfred-born 1869- died 1941
Emily-born 1872- died 1873


Sue
 

[ShirleyX]

Thanks everyone

I've got the Trove newspaper items.

Sue I'll check the biographical information - thanks

I have learnt from the Trove items and bdm's about the family but am mainly interested in the work and lives of those who were the blacksmiths for a book I'm working on.

Shirley

[sparrett]

Thanks everyone

I've got the Trove newspaper items.

Sue I'll check the biographical information - thanks

I have learnt from the Trove items and bdm's about the family but am mainly interested in the work and lives of those who were the blacksmiths for a book I'm working on.

Shirley

They were father and son, according to my source -mentioned above.
Is that also your understanding?

Sue

[ShirleyX]

Seems so Sue