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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Una Stubbs
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 25 July 13 16:01 BST (UK) »
I really enjoy it, but found i didn't enjoy Cherie Lunghi voice over :'( please bring back Mark Strong,  it felt like she was talking down to me, it's hard to explain,but i just want her to shut up :o
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Una Stubbs
« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 July 13 09:24 BST (UK) »
I thought Una very modest. She said she did not tell people about ther Gt Grandfather Ebenezer because she did not want to boast.

However, I found it a bit odd that she never obtained her father's birth certificate herself to find out her grandparents names.
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Una Stubbs
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 July 13 09:42 BST (UK) »
I think some people just don't know how to do these things .... I didn't until I started serious FH
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Una Stubbs
« Reply #12 on: Friday 26 July 13 11:19 BST (UK) »
One of her cousins knew that her own father was illegitimate but said that Clarence, Una's father, was definitely ("Oh, definitely!") Arthur's son with Annie before they got married; and Una said she could "see" her father in Arthur.

I don't see what was definite about it at all. 

Clarence's middle name is Watson, and that's a bit of red flag to me for him being Arthur Stubbs' son.  It was quite usual for an unmarried mother to give her child a name referencing the father, even if he couldn't be named officially on the birth certificate.  Just because Arthur and Annie lived opposite each other in the same street and Clarence was born at Arthur's house, doesn't actually make Arthur the father.  If he was, would it have been so unusual to have his name on the birth certificate? and if Arthur was Clarence's father, why didn't they marry before he was born? 

I appreciate we'll never know, but I felt that this bit was skated over a bit too easily.
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Una Stubbs
« Reply #13 on: Friday 26 July 13 13:39 BST (UK) »
Arthur states there were 2 children born to the marriage, at a point when Alwyn has also been born - so some support to the idea that Arthur is Clarence's father?
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Una Stubbs
« Reply #14 on: Friday 26 July 13 18:08 BST (UK) »
One of her cousins knew that her own father was illegitimate but said that Clarence, Una's father, was definitely ("Oh, definitely!") Arthur's son with Annie before they got married; and Una said she could "see" her father in Arthur.

I don't see what was definite about it at all. 

Clarence's middle name is Watson, and that's a bit of red flag to me for him being Arthur Stubbs' son.  It was quite usual for an unmarried mother to give her child a name referencing the father, even if he couldn't be named officially on the birth certificate.  Just because Arthur and Annie lived opposite each other in the same street and Clarence was born at Arthur's house, doesn't actually make Arthur the father.  If he was, would it have been so unusual to have his name on the birth certificate? and if Arthur was Clarence's father, why didn't they marry before he was born? 

I appreciate we'll never know, but I felt that this bit was skated over a bit too easily.
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Una Stubbs
« Reply #15 on: Friday 26 July 13 18:16 BST (UK) »
 Me too.

Also when they looked at a census on Ancestry, and immediately said "it wont be this one" rejecting the first on the list," but it is this one".

OK, I know they had looked at it all before, and worked out which entry was the right one, but it doesnt give a good example to would-be searchers if the impression given is that a quick glance at an index will leàd you to the right person when there are several to choose from.
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Una Stubbs
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 27 July 13 09:47 BST (UK) »
Its all to do with getting the whole thing into a 55 minute programme ............ I often wish the programmes were a couple of hours long !!
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Una Stubbs
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 27 July 13 11:15 BST (UK) »
If Arthur was Una's grandfather than surely her father's birth would have been re-registered after their marriage, usually seen as a handwritten correction in the GRO index.  Simply being shown as his son in the 1911 census isn't conclusive proof