Ordering copy marriage certificates.

[Smileyriley]

I would like to order two marriage certificates for two brothers but have no idea of the spouses maiden names or years in which they were married. I know the brothers dates of birth, deaths, fathers name and area that they would have been married. Is it possible to do this or do I have to know the maiden names of the two ladies involved. Also as someone would have to search for the records for me is the cost involved increased by much. I apologise if I have posted this in the wrong section of the forum.
Thank you.

[CaroleW]

Hi

Depending on roughly when the marriages took place - you can try freebmd

www.freebmd.org.uk  which has coverage into the late 1940's

Marriages from 1912 show spouse surname alongside the entry.  Click on the page number to get the christian name

If they are all now deceased - post details here and we will see if we can help

[Smileyriley]

Thank you. I will try that this evening.

[Smileyriley]

Oh thank you again. I hadn't read your reply properly first time. Yes both brothers are deceased and these are the details I have for them.
John William Jones. B. 21 Sept. 1907. South Shields. D 11 July 1946. Hereford. Buried in Chatham Kent. I am told he was married in the South Shields area.
Benjamin Jones. B. 27 May 1902. South Shields. D 2 January 1964. South Shields.
Their Fathers name was also Benjamin Jones B 1879. Westoe.Durham. Cartman.
Their Mothers name was Margaret Appleton. B 1881 Westoe Durham.

[josey]

I think online certificates from the GRO
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
are cheaper if you have the GRO reference. You do not have to give the names of both parties if you have this reference. You will need to create an account, certificates are £9.25 each.

As Carole suggests, a search on freebmd may give you the spouses' maiden names for free without a certificate [which are very useful for confirming the names of the fathers of each party] if you know the forename.

I suggest for each search you specify;
[1] the likely area of the marriage [county or town] which you say you know
[2] the relevant brother's name [and spouse's forename if you know it]
[3] a span of years to search depending on the brother's year of birth - I suggest 10 years either side of age 30.

On freebmd marriages before 1912 will usually give you 4 names if you click on the page number, hopefully 2 males & 2 females. If you do not know the brides' forenames you will have to order the certificate with the GRO reference & the male's full name.  Again, as Carole says, after 1912 you get the surname anyway. 

Josey

[josey]

So....I found

South Shields:
1930 Jun quarter 10 a 1617 John W Jones to Emma Goodwin
1931 Dec quarter 10 a 1525 John W Jones to Margaret A Kane

1923 Mar quarter 10 a 1290 Benjamin T Jones to Rose Croft
1924 Mar quarter 10 a 1155 Benjamin Jones to Mary J Bell

If you have the death certificates for the brothers, you may have their widows' forenames if they were the informants.

[Smileyriley]

Thank you both very much for your help. Unfortunately I have no idea of forenames or maiden names & am finding this really difficult. Partly I think, because the of the brothers surname and also because I don't seem to have a clue what I'm doing! Lol!

[Smileyriley]

Wow. That's brilliant. Thank you. I have the death certificates but Johns informant was his Mother and Benjamins says C Jones his son.

[Geoff-E]

Wow. That's brilliant. Thank you. I have the death certificates but Johns informant was his Mother and Benjamins says C Jones his son.

If you know when and where C JONES was born, the birth registration ought to tell you his mother's maiden name.