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Offline Dale Fogarty

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Re: Forbes ANGUS of Tarves
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 November 13 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Lu, I started to look at other trees on ancestry.com but became frustrated by the errors. I got excited when I found a photo of James Angus but was then disappointed when the same photo was attached to two different individuals! I will approach it again and do what I can. I had looked at the HURST family previously which is how I found out that the ANGUS family went to NZ from Scotland before going to Australia. Thanks for your help. Dale

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Re: Forbes ANGUS of Tarves
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 12 November 13 11:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi lexx, I am a descendant (grand daughter) of Mary Forbes ANGUS, who was the daughter of Alexander Forbes ANGUS and grand daughter of James ANGUS. James ANGUS and his wife Jane FORBES went to NZ on the "James Nicol Fleming" which arrived in NZ in 1870.

-----   From Passenger List
"James Nicol Fleming" - departed Greenock - 3 August 1870
Arrived Otago (Dunedin) - 26 October 1870 :

ANGUS - James, farm servant - Address: Green of Udny, Aberdeen.
ANGUS - Mrs Jane
ANGUS - (children - no ages given)
- Forbes  /  Jane  /  Isabella  /  Alexander /  Robert  /  James /  and Susan

How are you related to this family?
What do you know about their travel between NZ and Australia?

I am interested in the photo of James ANGUS but as I mentioned in my response to Lu, I would like to verify that it is actually him, i.e. what is the source, when was it taken, where and what was the occasion etc?

James ANGUS and Jane FORBES and all of their children (and their spouses and offspring) except Isabella Bothwell Forbes ANGUS came to Victoria possibly around 1890, though from what you say it suggests that they may have moved between NZ and Australia more often. I would be interested to know more about this.

1. Their son Forbes ANGUS b 10 Nov 1858, Old Meldrum, Aberdeen, Scotland married Amy Florence HURST on 30 May 1883, in Christchurch, New Zealand. They had 13 children. Their first 4 children were born in NZ.
Amy Elizabeth Jane ANGUS b 21 Mar 1884, Christchurch, New Zealand
Isabella ANGUS b 3 Mar 1885, Christchurch, New Zealand
Drucilla ANGUS b 20 Feb 1887, Christchurch, New Zealand
William Forbes ANGUS b 17 Dec 1889 Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand
Their fifth and sixth children Esther and James Tasman were born in Victoria, Australia in 1890 both died shortly after birth. The remaining children were all born in Victoria and died in Victoria (except Jessie George ANGUS).
Eva Hurst ANGUS b 5 May 1892
Forbes Alexander ANGUS b 28 Oct 1893
Robert Keep ANGUS b 28 Apr 1895
Jessie George ANGUS b 5 Dec 1897 d France 19 Nov 1917
Florence Mary ANGUS b 23 Feb 1899
Beryl Ismay ANGUS b 4 Nov 1900
George Douglas ANGUS b 1904

2. Their daughter Jane Gordon ANGUS b 5 Apr 1860 Old Meldrum, Aberdeen, Scotland married Samuel Young LOVE on 27 Dec 1882 in Christchurch, New Zealand
They had 5 children. I have not yet checked where the children were born but the first 3 may be in NZ and the last 2 in Victoria.

3. Isabella Bothwell Forbes ANGUS married William STRINGFELLOW on 18 Sep 1889 in NZ. They had one daughter Isabella Ann STRINGFELLOW DOB ? Isabella Bothwell Forbes ANGUS d 19 Jan 1940 and William STRINGFELLOW d 31 Aug 1918 died at Timaru, South Canterbury, New Zealand and are buried in Geraldine Cemetery, New Zealand.

4. Alexander Forbes ANGUS married Eva Lillian HURST (sister of Amy Florence HURST) on 15 Jan 1896 at Rathdowne St. Carlton, Victoria, Australia. These are my direct ancestors. They had 6 children including Mary Forbes ANGUS who was my grandmother.

5. Robert Bothwell ANGUS b Udny, Aberdeen, Scotland d 2 Jul 1942 Springvale, Victoria, Australia

6. Susan Riddel ANGUS b 11 Dec 1867 Udny, Aberdeen, Scotland, married and died in Victoria

7. James ANGUS b 11 Dec 1867 Udny, Aberdeen, Scotland, married and died in Victoria

8. Jessie Stephen b 4 May 1869 Udny, Aberdeen, Scotland d bef 1871 in Scotland

9. Magdalene Smith ANGUS b 1871 in NZ married Francis Thomas KARTON date? son James Angus KARTON in 1893 in Victoria

10. George ANGUS b 1874 in NZ

As you can see there are still gaps. I went to Aberdeen in Scotland in 2012 and visited Oldmeldrum, Tarves and Udny Green. I have some further information about Scotland although some of it needs to be verified.

I would appreciate any information that you could share with me.
Thanks
Dale

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Re: Forbes ANGUS of Tarves
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 May 14 08:11 BST (UK) »
Hi all
Magdalene who married Francis Karton was the sister of James Angus Junior he married Eliza Henry
haven't got the dates at the moment
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Re: Forbes ANGUS of Tarves
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 May 14 08:42 BST (UK) »
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 Record
Birth, Marriage & Death
Name:   
Jas Angus
Spouse:   
Jane Eliza Henry
Marriage:   
1897 in Victoria

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Re: Forbes ANGUS of Tarves
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 May 14 10:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Dale
its Eliza Jane Henry as far as I know I have her death cert and James I have not seen anything on Ancestry as I know so much is wrong  .Eliza's father was William her mother Jane Bull.Warnambool.
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Re: Forbes ANGUS of Tarves
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 May 14 11:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Lexx and Dale
as far as I know the Angus family worked on a farm at The Glen NZ Dunedin Susan and James were Twins .George Smith Angus drowned in Vic .Isabella Angus married William Stringfellow he had a farm in NZ and lived with his mother and she married before they left for Vic.The reason she stayed behind.
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Re: Forbes ANGUS of Tarves
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 May 14 14:15 BST (UK) »
Hi
sorry George Shepard Angus was drowned vic .
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