Jorgensen (Durham)

[John McCrea]

What actual evidence do you have that the two other brothers were born in South Shields?
As Kevin says, they don't seem to appear on freeBMD nor can I find them on the South Tyneside Registrar's site

Hi JenB,
After going through some paper work I have seen some evidence that two of the brothers were born in South Shields, from Merchant Navy records it says that Kaj was born 1907 South Shields, his brother Axel/Alex born 1909 South Shields, and Svend (looks like... Harred/Harrold) born 1897 in Odense.

[John McCrea]

In light of the National Probate Calendary entry for Christian Jorgensen in 1918, with Sofia listed, I think it's safe to say that the 1911 Census entry of the "single" Christian Jorgensen is yours because its the same address.  As it says probate and not administration was granted, it might be worth you getting a copy of it for his Will, if you don't already have one, to see whether anyone else is mentioned other than immediate family.

As Sven and Axel Jorgensen don't seem to have been born in the UK, it's possible that Sofia perhaps returned home which is why there is no sign of her on the 1911 Census.

Hi smudwhisk,
If indeed Sofia did return back home would I be able to see her with her children on any passenger ship lists? And what port of leaving should I look at?
Thanks again.
John.

[John McCrea]

In light of the National Probate Calendary entry for Christian Jorgensen in 1918, with Sofia listed, I think it's safe to say that the 1911 Census entry of the "single" Christian Jorgensen is yours because its the same address.  As it says probate and not administration was granted, it might be worth you getting a copy of it for his Will, if you don't already have one, to see whether anyone else is mentioned other than immediate family.

As Sven and Axel Jorgensen don't seem to have been born in the UK, it's possible that Sofia perhaps returned home which is why there is no sign of her on the 1911 Census.

Hi smudwhisk,
I will sure to be looking into getting a copy of this will because as you say it may give more clues.

John.

[KGarrad]

As Sven and Axel Jorgensen don't seem to have been born in the UK, it's possible that Sofia perhaps returned home which is why there is no sign of her on the 1911 Census.

Hi smudwhisk,
If indeed Sofia did return back home would I be able to see her with her children on any passenger ship lists? And what port of leaving should I look at?
Thanks again.
John.

Online passenger lists usually refer to Transatlantic or long-haul sea journeys.
As far as I know, there are no passenger lists for shipping to/from Scandinavia.

Of course, maybe then went to USA?

[barryd]

The SS Halland a, cargo ship was bombed and sunk in the North Sea 8 nautical miles (15 km) east of Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland with the loss of seventeen crew.

Six Norwegian sailors are listed as having died that day on SS Halland. Panel 54 of the link below. It may be possible that the Jorgensen brothers were Anglicised enough not to be included.

http://www.warsailors.com/freefleet/survivors4.html