Any other way to find his parents

[Leanne.]

I found this
Name:    James B Ketley
Birth Date:    1883
Father's Name:    Ketley
Mother's Name:    Elizabeth M
Birth Place:    New South Wales
Registration Year:    1883
Registration Place:    Ryde, New South Wales
Registration number:    15955



I wonder if it's the same Elizabeth M
Who married Adolphus Norman in 1884 at Ryde.
I wonder if these children are to Adolphus but born before marriage or if she already had these children to another man.

[ennael]

Hi,
  I would still look into it.
Same Registration details, it at least, should clarify what is going on.
I can find no corresponding birth registration for Patrick in NSW.
Dates and years can be slightly off on early records.
Leanne

[rosball]

But there is a birth for Neville D Norman in 1887 with parents Adolphus and Elizabeth M in Ryde and this is after their marriage.  Was he perhaps born before the marriage and birth registered (reregistered?) after marriage?  Very confusing ...

Leanne, it will probably be middle of next week before I go to Ryde library so maybe try e-mailing them first and then let me know if you don't get an answer.  Some of these organisations are so efficient and helpful and then others ...

cheers,
  Ros

[Leanne.]

Is anyone able to find Adolphe and Elizabeth on the census / electoral roll together.

I found 2 Adolphus Norman on the 1937 roll

1 - Adolphus William Norman 7 Cleveland St Darlington - Labourer ( no other Norman's listed with him)

2 - Adolphus William Norman - 603 harris St Pyrmont. his wife is listed with him Honora Ida Norman.

I wonder if they are the same guy and he has 2 addresses or if the first Adolphus is another guy with the exact same name.

[Leanne.]

The guy I am searching for is like a ghost, he has no records anywhere. Only thing I can find is the marriage record 1884 he is 25 years old born in france, divorce finalised 1894

His wife re married Joseph Lutherborrow in 1894. The dates match I knew thats why she had the marriage to Adolphus dissolved cause she wanted to get married again.

If that Gaol record is his, he took off from her around 1890 and she remarried in 1894.

[~MERLIN~]

He would NOT be entitled to vote as he wasn't a British Subject he would have to be naturalized to do so.

[kwangster]

I noticed in the historical papers adolphe norman was from labelle france, same one?

[Leanne.]

He would NOT be entitled to vote as he wasn't a British Subject he would have to be naturalized to do so.

How does he get naturalized?

[majm]

He would NOT be entitled to vote as he wasn't a British Subject he would have to be naturalized to do so.

How does he get naturalized?

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/naturalization-records/index-to-naturalization

The above link is to the NSW State Records Office INDEX covering naturalization records that they hold.   

The following link is to the NSW SRO's short guide 9 re Naturalisation
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/short-guide-9/short-guide-9

"Australian Citizenship" did NOT exist until 1949.  Before then, any person born in any of the six colonies that were Federated together by an Act of the English Parliament in 1901 to thus form the Commonwealth of Australia was a British Subject. (regardless of their parents citizenship status).

If the person sought to become a naturalised British Subject after Federation, then in general terms you will likely find that record is held by the NAA.  If they sought to become naturalised before Federation, then it is likely that the record is held by the relevant State RO.   Most have uploaded their indexes to their respective websites.   You will usually need to pay a nominal fee to have the actual records digitised.   The records will usually show you the date of birth, place of birth, for the applicant, as well as the name and date and port of arrival of the ship that fetched your family member/s to these shores.   The applications also include details of the applicant's life in Australia (which colony, town, occupation, how long in each, if married, number of children etc etc etc).

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/family-history/your-family/index.aspx

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/research-topics/family-history/how-to-start-your-family-history

Cheers, JM