Any other way to find his parents

[Leanne.]

Adolphus Norman Bachelor occ Mariner Age 27
Annie Elizabeth Edgecombe Age   22
Married 20 March 1889
Haggerston St Mary
Groom Father Adolphus Norman occ Seaman
Spouse Father James Edgecombe

Are you a bachelor if you have been married before ?

[avm228]

Can anyone work out what the occupation is

Stoker malt works

[rosie99]

Adolphus Norman Bachelor occ Mariner Age 27
Annie Elizabeth Edgecombe Age   22
Married 20 March 1889
Haggerston St Mary
Groom Father Adolphus Norman occ Seaman
Spouse Father James Edgecombe

Are you a bachelor if you have been married before ?

No one would check - he could say what he liked 

[Leanne.]

Adolphus Norman Bachelor occ Mariner Age 27
Annie Elizabeth Edgecombe Age   22
Married 20 March 1889
Haggerston St Mary
Groom Father Adolphus Norman occ Seaman
Spouse Father James Edgecombe

Are you a bachelor if you have been married before ?

No one would check - he could say what he liked 

But technically? Are divorced men given another title ?

[Leanne.]

If it is the same guy, and the same guy from the gaol books ( 3 convictions wife desertion, counterfeit coins, travel on ship without paying)
He doesn't seem like an honest man, and on the 1911 census his boarder's occupation is police officer hahaha wonder how he felt about that. Maybe he changed his ways when he left Australia.

[johnxyz]

1901 census Stoker [] Works.

BUT just found a potential spaner in the works from Free BMD

Adolphus Norman married Shoreditch Jan - Mar 1889. There in an Annie Edgecombe on same page.

[rosie99]

Adolphus Norman Bachelor occ Mariner Age 27
Annie Elizabeth Edgecombe Age   22
Married 20 March 1889
Haggerston St Mary
Groom Father Adolphus Norman occ Seaman
Spouse Father James Edgecombe

Are you a bachelor if you have been married before ?

No one would check - he could say what he liked 

But technically? Are divorced men given another title ?

I don't think so      I have a marriage cert for a divorced woman which says 'previously married' but that was 100 years after the one above

[Leanne.]

If he got married again  1889, does that mean it couldn't be him.

His record :

Wife desertion when and where - Ryde oct 1 1890 - fine 2 pound 15 or 12 months
Counterfeit coins when and where - Parramatta July 6 1892 - 2 years
Travel by boat without paying, Newcastle, June 27 1898 - 7 days

That is of course if this record for Norman Adolphe, is actually for Adolphe Norman.
Family tells me gaol books use last name first but I'm not too sure. It doesn't say Norman, Adolphe. Just Norman Adolphe.
But birth place is listed as France but it looks like it says Frauel but other people assure me it says France.
Born: 1858
Arrived : 1868 - Ship - Alexander ?
occupation : Farmer.


Some things are the same but some aren't and I don't really have any proof, there is a photo of him on the record and I showed it to family but they have never seen a photo of him, but some think he has family features.

Do you think birthplace is france ?

[Leanne.]

I have looked for other records for a Norman Adolphe but can't find him anywhere, only in the gaol records and police gazette books, and newspaper articles about his crimes.

I found Adolphus Norman in someone else's tree from Australia and they have a shipping record for him coming to Australia but all it says is A Norman arrived on the Sorata, born france, arrived from the port of London. 

A Norman could be anyone, plus when he got married here his name was Normand, wouldn't Normand be on his shipping record.
And the date is 11th Aug 1884, but he got married in Australia on the 7th Aug 1884

Someone has added this record to their tree and other people have seen it and copied it, I have found it in 5 or more trees. I was going to add it but then I looked at the dates and realised it couldn't be him plus the Normand / Norman thing.