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Offline jaco52

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New Forest Coopers
« on: Monday 01 July 13 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hello
I'm a cooper from the New Forest, i have recently started searching my family. i have succeeded to my 3x Great Aunt Eliza Cooper and her 2 brothers George, Goliath. All probably born 1880-1900.
My nan remembers a uncle Goliath, Auntie Eliza, and granddad George.

Does anyone recognize these names or have these members in there family.



Please help if you know any information

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Re: New Forest Coopers
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 July 13 14:03 BST (UK) »
Hi
I cant see any birth for a Goliath Cooper

Where have you found Eliza, George and Goliath?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: New Forest Coopers
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 July 13 14:16 BST (UK) »
I'm struggling too.   ???

Goliath COOPER ought to be easy to spot but I can't see him on a census or a birth on freeBMD.

Do you know if they were travellers?  Goliath was often a name used by the travelling community.

post modified - I see from your first post that this family were indeed travellers.  There were notorious for changing surnames.  You will have to do some digging to unravel this.  Do you know anything else about the family which might help us?
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: New Forest Coopers
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 July 13 14:27 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There's a marriage registration for a Goliath Cooper in 1962 in Hampshire.   :-\


Nanny Jan
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: New Forest Coopers
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 July 13 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi

1962? Still alive?

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Re: New Forest Coopers
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 July 13 15:10 BST (UK) »
Quote from: [Ray] on Monday 01 July 13 15:06 BST (UK)
Hi

1962? Still alive?

Ray

Without more details from the OP ................it could have been a marriage late in life.   :-\


Nanny Jan
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: New Forest Coopers
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 July 13 15:24 BST (UK) »
doesnt really matter - no spammer is ever going to find him!

I've noticed before that Travellers often get married 'within the system', but rarely get births recorded - deaths usually of course.

Suspect that 'Cooper' is married name of sister Eliza, but looking through 1871-1901 census for a Hampshire-linked Goliath doesnt show up one with siblings Eliza & George - might be timing, but suspect this one isnt going to fly !

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Re: New Forest Coopers
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 July 13 16:29 BST (UK) »
A PM from OP:   " no sorry, he died around 1920 I believe".


Nanny Jan
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: New Forest Coopers
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 July 13 17:20 BST (UK) »
The only Goliath dying in Hants c1920:-


Deaths Dec 1921 

Cole,  Goliath  81  Alton  2c 206


He can be seen in the last couple of census - but the early ones ??

Does the surname Crocker ring any bells ?
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