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Some Fitzgerald's of Cork City (St.Finbarr's)
« on: Sunday 30 June 13 04:20 BST (UK) »
Hi.
I am at a dead end, with some of the Fitzgerald's from Cork.
This is what I have and hoping someone can piece it together or has a family link to it.
As there is no definite dates and information is scarce, I can only go off names and areas, but because there is is so much info on Fitzgerald's at this time, it's very hard to eliminate sections without knowing proper dates or family links.

 I know they are of St.Finbarr's parish (Or of Cork & Ross), that's all I know, as I have heard there was a fire of the records (unsure if this was the Public Record Office, or the Church itself??)

  • Maurice Fitzgerald (b 1756?) married Anne Fitton (was she of the Cooper/Brewer "Fitton's"??)
  • Maurice and Ann had a child of William Fitzgerald (b 1776)
  • William Fitzgerald then went on to marry a Catherine Godson (b 1781), they lived out their end of days in England (I think they died as paupers from certain info)
  • William Fitzgerald and Catherine had 2 boys that I know of - Richard (b 1807) and Thomas (b 1810)
  • Both boys were born in Cork City, addresses of the Parents at the time of the boy's Birth were "Market Lane and Dunbar St"
  • Thomas married Elizabeth Ambrose in Cork City - 1837, they then set sail for Sydney, Australia

The above Thomas is my 4th Great Grandfather and hoping to link up with anyone with further info.
Researching :
Maternal - Hasler (Parliament + Photographers) - mid 1700's+, Galway City & Dublin
Paternal - Fitzgerald - mid 1700's+, Cork City
Maternal - MacNevin (Solicitor's) - mid 1700's+, Dublin
Maternal - Newenham (Parliament, Military) - mid 1700's+, Cork & Dublin
Maternal - Persse (Moyode+Roxborough) - mid 1700's+, Galway
Others: Maternal - Blood, Blakeney (Athenry)

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Re: Some Fitzgerald's of Cork City (St.Finbarr's)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 June 13 08:37 BST (UK) »
Your doing well to be this far back wish I could get some of my line back before 1800 :)

Anyhow have you seen this record (open the link)

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/4ca83c0037224

You can actually see the original record from 1775 if you go down to
"View the church register page containing this record"

One more record for you also in Latin from 1771
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/3bfeab0192040

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Re: Some Fitzgerald's of Cork City (St.Finbarr's)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 October 13 13:48 BST (UK) »
I have some info that I can relate too now.

The Thomas Fitzgerald that left Cork and came to Sydney, was a Carpenter. I was told a "wheelwright", but not sure where the evidence comes from. Occupations on 2 countries records show "Carpenter" as a trade and not be 'renamed' to conform to the new country's code of 'name of trade'. In a sense, I thought a wheelwright could be known in Cork as a trade and the Australian equivalent was shelved as a Carpenter. What confuses me, is there is a Fitton marriage to Maurice and there could be a connection to a Brewery. Some Fitton's in Cork at the timer were Brewers and or Cooper's. It seems pretty fitting that the Fitzgerald's have a Carpentry trade, one made for the Brewing company.
In the Cork City census of 1845, it shows there is a Maurice and a William, both living on Evergreen St, Cork and held occupations as Carpenters.
Thomas had a father called William and William had a father called Maurice.
Even though it's not 100% proven, circumstantial evidence is showing that the 2 people living on Evergreen Street with the same Surname, same trade and the linage with names is "interesting" nonetheless.
I have been told, that William+wife leave Cork, bound for England somewhere and die there. As they had no money, they worked in the "workhouses" and died as paupers.
I can only hazard a guess that when Maurice died, William took off for England.
And that some Brewery's shut down in the mid 1800's, if the connection between the Fitzgerald's being Carpenters and working for a Brewery is there, the connection to them leaving Cork, could be the catalyst of a Brewery closing down (job losses for Carpenter's).
These are educated guesses. I have to prove these circumstances.
Researching :
Maternal - Hasler (Parliament + Photographers) - mid 1700's+, Galway City & Dublin
Paternal - Fitzgerald - mid 1700's+, Cork City
Maternal - MacNevin (Solicitor's) - mid 1700's+, Dublin
Maternal - Newenham (Parliament, Military) - mid 1700's+, Cork & Dublin
Maternal - Persse (Moyode+Roxborough) - mid 1700's+, Galway
Others: Maternal - Blood, Blakeney (Athenry)

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Re: Some Fitzgerald's of Cork City (St.Finbarr's)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 March 14 12:57 GMT (UK) »
I've just done a FTDNA test and found some 3rd-4th cousins Fitzgerald links to Skibereen.
Still nothing definite, but it's a start.
Researching :
Maternal - Hasler (Parliament + Photographers) - mid 1700's+, Galway City & Dublin
Paternal - Fitzgerald - mid 1700's+, Cork City
Maternal - MacNevin (Solicitor's) - mid 1700's+, Dublin
Maternal - Newenham (Parliament, Military) - mid 1700's+, Cork & Dublin
Maternal - Persse (Moyode+Roxborough) - mid 1700's+, Galway
Others: Maternal - Blood, Blakeney (Athenry)


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Re: Some Fitzgerald's of Cork City (St.Finbarr's)
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 August 14 10:56 BST (UK) »
After some research and a Autosomal / Y-DNA (67 Marker) test, it seems I am off a Male MacCarthy / Female Fitzgerald lineage - and somehow it remarried back into the Fitzgerald line.
It is pointing to be having origins in either West Cork or even Co. Kerry. Y-DNA is showing a lot of Kerry/West Cork and Autosomal is showing more of an earlier time?
I have these families names that link mine : MacCarthy, Collins, O'Driscoll, O'Shea, Mahoney, O'Sullivan.
Some other families, also marry up on the Autosomal DNA to either a Desmond or maybe a Kildare link to Fitzgerald in around the MacCarthy Reagh era. (Plunkett's, Brown's, O'Sullivan's, O'Neil's etc)
I have some Fitzgibbon involvement but that stops at the 37 marker level. Fitzgerald is very low on the Y-DNA.
Would like to hear, if anyone links to these families.
Researching :
Maternal - Hasler (Parliament + Photographers) - mid 1700's+, Galway City & Dublin
Paternal - Fitzgerald - mid 1700's+, Cork City
Maternal - MacNevin (Solicitor's) - mid 1700's+, Dublin
Maternal - Newenham (Parliament, Military) - mid 1700's+, Cork & Dublin
Maternal - Persse (Moyode+Roxborough) - mid 1700's+, Galway
Others: Maternal - Blood, Blakeney (Athenry)