Which LONDON PRISON for my naughty ancestor ????

[JOOBLES]

Oh dear ........ I've just found a London newspaper report relating to one of 'my lot' who was sentenced to 18 months 'hard labour' in October 1875. He was a watchmaker / repairer who kept some of his customers' gold watches, pawned them and kept the money for himself !

Henry Scott, aged 37 was living in Hammersmith at the time so I'm wondering where he would have been imprisoned.  The report said, "He made no defence and held a handkerchief to his eyes."

Pity the sentencing isn't as harsh for today's criminals.

Hope some kind soul can assist me please.

Julie

[Bryn Celyn]

Ancestry's "England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892" don't tell you the name of the prison.  However, if I were to guess I would say that it would be one in the same county (Middlesex).

The most obvious one would be Wormwood Scrubs, if it was open at that time.

[[Ray]]

Hi

Don't envy this task, the full list must be quite big.

"Clink" springs to mind immediately
The Bishop of Winchester’s prison ("Clink" in Southwark, Museum still there in Clink Street)
Then . . . . .
Fleet, Marshalsea Southwark, Bench(es) Southwark
Whitechapel Prison, Tower Hamlets Gaol, St Catherine’s Gaol, Westminster Gatehouse.

Does it depend upon where the crime (then court) was carried out?

Is there a central register somewhere? (Dawn? Valda? - help!)

Ray

[JOOBLES]

Oh dear, quite a few possibilities then !!

Thank-you for your input.

Julie

[[Ray]]

Hi

He only got 10 months for that offence, although there are a number of cases around that time for a "Henry Scott".

Where does he show up in 1881?

Ray

[JOOBLES]

Oh, so where did you get that info. Ray ?  The London Standard Newspaper report of Oct.19th 1875 said 18 months so is it recorded elsewhere then ?

I haven't looked for him in the 1881 census because his wife remarried in 1878 and on the marriage cert. she describes herself as a widow.  I haven't found his death which I would like to do.

Julie

[Bryn Celyn]

There are 3 possible deaths between 1875-1878 in London:

1876 Holborn aged 37 (Henry Scott)
1876 Shoreditch aged 39 (Henry Lily Scott)
1877 Whitechapel aged 41 (Henry Walter Scott)

[lizdb]

So the window for his death his very narrow - 1875 - 1878. I wonder if he died in prison,

With a birth year around 1838, there are these possible deaths (assuming he is in London area)

AMJ 1876 Shoreditch - Henry Lily Scott  age 39
JFM 1876 Holborn - Henry Scott age 37
JFM 1877 Whitechapel - Henry Walter Scott age 41

Did yours have a middle name?
If he didnt, and also age-wise, the Holborn one looks good!

Snap 

[JOOBLES]

Yes, I agree, that's the very death I've just found.

He didn't have a middle name so it all looks to be right. Shame I can't see what's on the death certificate before buying it !!

Julie