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Brinkley
« on: Thursday 27 June 13 23:28 BST (UK) »
i have james Brinkley born 1878 barnet . on his marriage cert it says his dad is james , but i actually think his farther is valentine brinkley and his mu was rhoda as my my James came from a gipsy family .i have soo hit a brick wall .. can anyone helphelpas every link i have the james brinkley with rhoda and valentine died 1907 , but i need some proof

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Re: Brinkley
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 June 13 00:05 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

What occupation is given for his father and were either of the witnesses surname Brinkley
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Re: Brinkley
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 June 13 00:11 BST (UK) »

Hi

Welcome to Rootschat.

Unfortunately there is no birth date given here but this looks like it might be the James you think is yours

Baptism Register
St Paul Edmonton
Enfield

James son of Valentine and Rhoda BRINKLEY of Winchemere Hill. Baptised privately 8th April 1879. Father's occupation Wire Work Maker

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Re: Brinkley
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 June 13 00:16 BST (UK) »
Valentine was a traveller in 1881 and died in 1885

Rhoda then married Christopher Gritty Smith and is on the 1891 census with sons Edward & James shown as Smith.  Apparently Rhoda was married to Theophilus Scarrott prior to Valentine.  Freebmd has a marriage to Rhoda Smith in 1862 Hendon Middlesex

Somebody called Kathleen has put this information on a transcription error notification so clearly has knowledge of the family
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Re: Brinkley
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 June 13 22:29 BST (UK) »
This is what i know . on the 1911 census he was born 1878 Barnet . he married Elizabeth Kingham in 1913 , but she had 3  children by him  previously ( could he have been married to someone else ) he died in 1915 greenwich union . His father on his marriage cert was James  Occupation coastermonger.
the witnesses was annie webber (whick is Elizabeths sister)and a martha g goodall , they lived at church street Deptford . Thanks for the welcome :o) 

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Re: Brinkley
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 June 13 22:38 BST (UK) »
Interesting - completely different occupation for his father James than that of Valentine.  A costermonger is what we would today call a greengrocer
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Re: Brinkley
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 June 13 23:16 BST (UK) »
Long shot
1881 census , Harleston road , Grantham , Lincolnshire
In caravans
James Brinkley b 1851 Cambridge - occ traveller with ginger beer

Other families with him,
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Bugg , Aylward, H?????? , Gray , Savile, Dorking ? ,  Bunker, Barker, Norton ? , Newey ,
also , a Walter Brinkley b 1859 Norfolk and family

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Re: Brinkley
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 June 13 23:48 BST (UK) »
That 1881 entry does not have a son James b 1878 Barnet
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Re: Brinkley
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 June 13 23:55 BST (UK) »
Quote from: CaroleW on Friday 28 June 13 23:48 BST (UK)
That 1881 entry does not have a son James b 1878 Barnet

No it dosn't , but he is listed as head of family but on his own \\ and married  . No wife/family with him in the camp .  His wife and any possible  children ? probably elsewhere ?
Maybe Walter is related to the OP   too ?
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