Did John DEAMS wife die, or were they divorced or ?

[Lucy2]

Mmm ... yes, did I see someone had suggested Mary, "born in Ireland - Cork ?".

[Lucy2]

Dunno, KHP.      
The trees I viewed don't seem to lead "anywhere".   Just a collection of names ?
One which has Mary and Edward's children, also has Constance, born 1911 ?   [ Constance according to NZ BDM, was the child of Annie [HALLASEY] and Edward REEVES ? ]

Grrr !  Need to find Alice H.   
 

[kiwihalfpint]

It is frustrating ...........

I don't know where Alice is, I have turned every stone sideways, upside down, and whichever way in my sources, just putting Alice's two names in.   I did think that perhaps maybe she had died in child birth or something else, but that is only speculation on my part and then there should be a death record.


Cheers
KHP

[Lucy2]

Mmm ... I was more of the view that her marriage to DEAM was very short-lived ... and that he moved on, eventually setting up a few years later with Sarah SIMPSON.    [ There is no "obvious" marriage record for John DEAM /Sarah SIMPSON. ]

[kiwihalfpint]

No, I couldn't find one either, but did notice that the birth of a child to John Deam in 1890 on School Records has been spelt as Diem on the burial locator.   


Cheers
KHP

[mineyours+ours]

Hi everyone,

A huge thanks for all the work everyone has been putting in.  As I keep telling my family, since joining rootschat, I can't get over how everyone is so helpful with their ideas and the time that is spent. 

Now, apologies for the blooper the other night with the year 1920. I am usually doing this in the wee small hours of the morning and occassionally see things I am not seeing

From all the input I have:
Mary married Edward Reeves and after 9 children passed away in 1899 
Anne had a pre nup child in 1901 who died in 1902 at 20months, she then married Edward and went on to have a further 4 children.
Edward passed away in 1913 and Annie remarried WF Quinney in 1914.
Ann passed away in 1949.

I can confirm that you are correct with the sisters marrying the same man and also the last marriage because ..... yesterday, working forwards from the marriage you gave for Reeves I found a living relative     (not sure what I can put here as it is a living relative)

She was very interested but isn't sure of the family history but she said her 85 year old sister would know more. Unfortunately she is in Australia at the moment until the end of the month, but she said they will have a think and talk when she gets back and then ring me.  Soo it is patience M, patience.

Now, it has me stumped (as well as you, Lu and KHP) about Alice!!  With all the records for the other children, and I also think they are all the same family from the Hawkes Bay area, there is nothing for Alice except for the marriage cert.  Whether she died, no death certs, or they just split, there is no further records for her.

Also nothing before the marriage cert. Now that comment about Ireland has me wondering. I was just browsing on familysearch and noticed the name Hallasey seemed to be Irish people.  Also I have an Applications to marry in the Waipawa district form, and on it for length of residence John states 5 years (after England then ??) and Alice states 12 years. BUT we have the marriage of Michael and Katherine Taylor in 1864 on Kiwi Index, which would have been approx Alice's birth year.

Minnie, re your comments about Sarah, yes I have the deaths etc for her but have never found a marriage. I am assuming if he just left Alice he has simply moved in with Sarah. On his death cert they have, married in Paeroa to Sarah Simpson but personally I think that is a 'formality' to cover the life with Sarah and all the children

Even if I don't find what has happened to Alice I think her descendants will be really pleased to receive all the info we have.

Just remembered, Lu what was your other idea you mentioned for searching for Alice?
Oh well better get some sleep, once again the wee small hours.
I hope I haven't missed anyone with my thanks as I do appreciate the time and effort everyone puts in.

Cheers, M
 

[mineyours+ours]

Didn't get to bed yet. Just searching, searching, searching.

Please feel free to tell me I'm blooping again but have any of you found another Catherine Hallasey apart from the mother (who is Catherine and Katherine sometimes)?

Because I have just found a Catherine Hallisey. She married Daniel Finnigan in 1889 (John was in 1885) and went on to have 10 children, the first was named Kathleen (Catherines mother was Kate on marriage cert). She died in 1944 aged 78 years which makes birth approx 1865, 66 which would tie in with Alice Catherine.  I'm thinking if she has committed bigamy she could have quite easily dropped Alice.  Have I found her do you think??

Will wait with bated breath for a reply (no actually I need to go and get some sleep!!)

Cheers, M

[kiwihalfpint]

Hi,

The above Catherine Finnigan is buried at Wakapuaka Cemetery Nelson.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vdm/


Cheers
KHP   

[Lucy2]

Hmm ... I'd checked out this Catherine HALLISEY earlier.    (Not really convinced she was Alice Catherine).

There is a tree at ancestry - suggesting she was born 15 August 1866 at Nelson - no parents names given (and can't see, under various spellings, a listing of her birth at NZ BDM. )

  ~  Lu