Alice and Carnation Buckley

[social-butterflies]

hi, just wanted to add my findings.
it may help or pos that it may confuse but the info I have lists alices's first husband "Josiah buckley/smith, half brother to carnation, to be the father of elias, with siblings of walter, lemantina, Arthur, Sidney and elaneor, and lazarus.  then with carnation she had, agnes, prudence matilda, Florence & Beatrice.
alice listed with the chignells is the same alice smith, and she died in may 1921 in Colchester Essex. I have both of her marriage details and sencus detaisl from 1861 till death if you need them

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Alice Muckley 51 WIFE born Beds, Luton (strange how people change around so much!)

Not kidding - 1861 census entry for Alice and Josiah has their place of birth  transcribed by Ancestry as "Sha Shinks Somewhirewis, Kent, England" which someone has annotated as "She thinks Somewhere in Kent"  With them are Lemantina, 2 (who bears many spellings in her short life) and Walter (5 b royston Heath) and another 18 yr old male Buckley, (born "Wales, he told me")possibly also something like Lemantina or Lanternalina - the enumerator has left puzzled question marks beside this and Lemantina's names

[Mabel Bagshawe]

also, from British Newspaper archive free search

Saturday 23 September 1893 ,  Essex Newsman ,

"Carnation Buckley, an itinerant brazier, deposed to the children being kept in a very dirty state. Defendants appeared to leave them to the mercy of the ... ”

[social-butterflies]

good morning mabel
could you post the link to the newspaper search please only I cannot find it listed a sa "free" search, or possibly the exact name of the link, thank you.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

It's a subscription site, but you can search free and get small snippets as I quoted - in this case from searching for Carnation Buckley

[social-butterflies]

ok thanks

[twinny]

carnation buckley and alice are my great grandparents the daughter Beatrice Harris is my gran Caenation is buried in St Laurence paupers grave but I have found Alice's grave and stone in Vange churchyard her daughter was Florence chignell carnation'd dad was Joiner Buckley