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Offline Gilly Lewis

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Re: Alexander Alfred Lewis
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 June 13 18:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Sharon,
Thanks for getting back to me. The son would have been born approx 1938/9 and the daughter approx 42/3. :-\
Thanks again
Gilly

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Re: Alexander Alfred Lewis
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 23 June 13 13:53 BST (UK) »
Who was Violet Lewis who was living with them on one of the census??

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Re: Alexander Alfred Lewis
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 June 13 17:29 BST (UK) »
Sharon,
The son was about a 11/12 and the daughter 3/4 years old.

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Re: Alexander Alfred Lewis
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 June 13 18:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Suz,
Violet Lewis was a family member, cousin to Alexander Alfred Lewis. It's Ok, we've also been down that root. Violet Lewis isn't Paddy V.
Gilly


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Re: Alexander Alfred Lewis
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 23 June 13 19:12 BST (UK) »
I didn't think Violet was Paddy V as they are both on electoral roll - thought she might be a daughter (over 21)

You mentioned Paddy V went back to Scarborough "her home town" - do you know she was born there|?
Have you any other snippets of info??

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Re: Alexander Alfred Lewis
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 23 June 13 19:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Suz,
I always thought Paddy V was from the North and my cousin mentioned that Scarborough was her home town. Personally, I do not think they were actually married. Paddy might be a nickname for Patricia? I don't really have much more information, nor have any of my living relatives. There was a mention of her possibly immigrating with her daughter, but I cannot swear to that. Apparently, she died about two/three years before Alexander, that would of been in the year 1999/2000 and in England.
I was also informed that she was once for a time mayoress of Scarborough. I did get the list of Mayors of more recent times and dating back to 1800's, they were only a few female mayor's and there wasn't a Paddy/Patricia V. So any information I do follow up meets a brickwall. The always lived in Maida Vale, Paddington until Paddy V left for Scarborough in the 50's or thereabouts.
I did follow up a what I thought was a lead, a Paddy V St Clair, I will dig out the information for you tomorrow.
Many thanks
Gill

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Re: Alexander Alfred Lewis
« Reply #15 on: Monday 24 June 13 08:47 BST (UK) »
There seem to be all sorts of questions here.

Were the two children actually children of the marriage? The fact that Alexander, on his death, leaves all to a niece, implies either the children predeceased him, or that there was a major family rift, or that they never were his children and when Paddy left (I am assuming when you say she went up north, she went alone and separated from Alex) he lost all contact with them.
The other question that I cant help thinking of, is - does it really matter? If you are following the Lewis line, then going backwards from Alex you will be OK, as it will be the same as your own line. Going forwards - well, there are no registrations for children of the names you have given under Lewis, so it does look (coupled with the lack of provision for them in his will) as if possibly they were never Alex's children.  If they were, then it is them that need concentrating on, from a genealogical point of view, rather than the elusive "paddy".
With no obvious marriage to be found, no childrens birth under Lewis, no mention of children in his will, no family contact or knowledge of any children ....... I would guess (and it is only a guess) that they were Paddy's children, and at the time you met them Alex was 'friends' with Paddy. This may be that they were together as a  couple, but may not. I guess you were only young at the time you met them, so the exact nature of the relationship may not have been clear.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
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Re: Alexander Alfred Lewis
« Reply #16 on: Monday 24 June 13 11:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Liz, all that you have implied I agree, I'm of the same  sentiment. And I have considered all of this possibilties in my research. I used to visit the family in Paddington 1948/49 and they were together as a family, although in all probability, not entirely happy. They split up in the early fiveties when Paddy left for Scarborough with the daughter. I'm not certain if she took her son, because he was working in a well known store in the West End of London approx in the70's/80's. i'm not in communication with the person who saw him there. We almost have the entire Lewis family on our tree. It's just Paddy who is the missing piece to complete the jig-saw. I think the family rift and the possibility that they were not bothered about keeping in contact with Alexander, or they immigrated as suggested by a member of the family. Anyway, Liz I appreciate your help and I will continue to pursue this mystery.  Paddy of course may of still of been married to someone else and did not get a divorce, so she and Alexander lived together. But that doesn't account for the youngest child who would have only been three/four years old in 1948.
Gilly