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John Wall - Indenture Document
« on: Sunday 16 June 13 00:37 BST (UK) »
Hello all,
I have an indenture document (please see attached), which might contain a very useful block of information (area in red in image). However, I am having a hard time deciphering all of it. The last two lines seem to read:

Emma Wall in the presence of
James Hobbs Soap Boiler

Could anyone help me with the lines above that within the red box?
Thank you,
J Wall

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Re: John Wall - Indenture Document
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 June 13 00:53 BST (UK) »
I can't get all the words but here's my try:

? Signed Sealed and delivered by the said
John Wall and John Mabyn in the presence of
                                       Henry Britton ? ?
    Signed Sealed and deliveried by the said
Emma Wall in the presence of
                                           James Hobbs  Soap Boiler
England:  Archer, Bailey, Bates, Blower, Bosworth, Court, Hicklin, Orton, Palmer, Robbins, Sedgwick, Smith, Stevenson, Stone, Varnam, Wakelin, Walker
Canada:  Archer, Walker, Spencer, Shepherd
Australia:  Taplin
South Africa:  Risley

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Re: John Wall - Indenture Document
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 June 13 01:00 BST (UK) »
...... Signed sealed and delívered by  the said John Wall and John Mabyn in the presence of (looks like) Henry Brittan  ..........
Signed sealed and delivered by the said Emma Wall in the presence of James Hobbs Soap Boiler

(the dots are what I cannot make out)

Susan
Bedfordshire:     Church, Brooks
Essex (Great Bardfield):   Woolard
Hertfordshire:  Day, Johnson
Kent:   Church, Bristow, Day, Pharo, Oliver, Green
London:   Brinsley, Gillbe, Dawson, Gash
Northampton:   Pharo, Ilett
Suffolk:   Day, Munnings
Yorkshire:  Oliver, Hall, Richardson

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Re: John Wall - Indenture Document
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 June 13 01:13 BST (UK) »
 I agree with sami as to the wording and names. I think the wording after Henry Britton is Sol (solicitor?) and Bristol. The document has an  official stamp  with the  city of Bristol named.

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Re: John Wall - Indenture Document
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 June 13 01:36 BST (UK) »
Wondering if the first word is - Contract

sami
England:  Archer, Bailey, Bates, Blower, Bosworth, Court, Hicklin, Orton, Palmer, Robbins, Sedgwick, Smith, Stevenson, Stone, Varnam, Wakelin, Walker
Canada:  Archer, Walker, Spencer, Shepherd
Australia:  Taplin
South Africa:  Risley

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Re: John Wall - Indenture Document
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 June 13 02:11 BST (UK) »
First word looks a bit like book ap  ,, would they have signed a book.

Agree looks like Sol.  Bristol

Well spotted.
Bedfordshire:     Church, Brooks
Essex (Great Bardfield):   Woolard
Hertfordshire:  Day, Johnson
Kent:   Church, Bristow, Day, Pharo, Oliver, Green
London:   Brinsley, Gillbe, Dawson, Gash
Northampton:   Pharo, Ilett
Suffolk:   Day, Munnings
Yorkshire:  Oliver, Hall, Richardson

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Re: John Wall - Indenture Document
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 June 13 11:30 BST (UK) »
The first word looks to me a bit like "Witness", which has then been crossed out with a squiggly line. Off the top of my head I can't think of any form of words that might logically go in front of "Signed, sealed..." etc, so I'm wondering if maybe the clerk started off writing the wrong form of words and then had to begin again.

Arthur

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Re: John Wall - Indenture Document
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 June 13 16:58 BST (UK) »
Agree the word 'Witness', but cannot see that it has been crossed out.

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Re: John Wall - Indenture Document
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 16 June 13 17:09 BST (UK) »
Quote from: veeblevort on Sunday 16 June 13 16:58 BST (UK)
Agree the word 'Witness', but cannot see that it has been crossed out.

You may be right, but it looked darker to me, as though perhaps someone had gone over it a second time. I also thought the "ne" didn't quite look right, and that there might be a crossing-out in there somewhere.

Would we also expect to see "Witnesses" if it was meant to be there?

Arthur
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