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where did she come from
« on: Wednesday 12 June 13 20:51 BST (UK) »
Catherine Jones where did she come from who was her mother we know she had a sister elizabeth(known as lizzie) and a brother thomas.catherine married joseph james powell in pontypridd in 1917 marriage cert states she was married from 23 tylacelyn rd in penygraig rhondda her father name is given as john jones a miner in 1920 she lived at 13 hill street penygraig rhondda that is where her son was born in 1920 is name was john he was my hubbys father.
We know at sometime in the 60s 70s lizzie was a patient at the parc mental hospital in bridgend her name then was elizabeth curtis she has been deaceased many years we have no living relatives to ask so its really like looking for a needle in a haystack there are so many catherine joneses fogot to say she was born in 1898

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Re: where did she come from
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 June 13 21:57 BST (UK) »
You could try asking on here if anyone has acess to the 1901 census, if she was born in 1898 she would have been around 3 at the time of the census,if her brother and sister were older than her they would have been on it as well, I know Jones is a common name but it is worth a try

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 June 13 22:24 BST (UK) »
this is the best match I can see on 1901 in Penygraig Rd. There is a sister Elizabeth but father's name is wrong

Thomas Jones  34  - hewer, b Aberdare
Catherine Jones    34
Wm Jones    13
Eliz Ann Jones    9
Rt Jno Jones  7
Cath Jones   4
Mary Mary Jones   1  [image says Marg Mary]
Dav Jones    4 Months
Marg Jones 68 - widow b Llansamlet
   
reference RG13, 5018, 123, 3


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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 June 13 22:29 BST (UK) »
In 1911 there is a Catherine Jones born in Penygraig 1897 listed as a niece and as a nurse aged 14 at 6 David St Williamstown under the head of house Elizabeth Rees


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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 June 13 22:30 BST (UK) »
Hi

1901 Census living at Bedw Rd Pontypridd

John Jones b 1869 Merthyr Tydvil
Sarah Jones b 1873 Talley Camarhen
Catherine M Jones b 1897 Pontypridd
Alban Jones b 1899 Pontypridd

Was Elizabeth and Thomas born after the 1911 census

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 June 13 07:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Brian

Can you tell us when Catherine died, also on the marriage to Joseph, does it give any occupation for her and who were the witnesses

Do you have the year of births for Elizabeth and Thomas

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 June 13 20:32 BST (UK) »
thanks for your reply on her death cert she died on 1st april 1979age 80 yrs at dewi sant hospital pontypridd
on marriage cert they got married in pontypridd on 1st may 1916 she was age 17yrs if that is correct she was born in 1899 not 1898 as we was led to believe she was born on july the 11th no profession on cert her father john jones miner.
I have tried our local library no luck the only thing the lady in the library could tell me that in 1918 at 23 tylacelyn rd (under) which i take to be a under house (rooms) there live a henry jones elizabeth jones and john jones which we assume is catherines father,elizabeth was born 1895 not sure when thomas was born maybe 1893.

My hubby seems to think they came from cardigan area he is not really sure
Thanks very much Patricia

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 June 13 20:35 BST (UK) »
thanks for your reply on her death cert she died on 1st april 1979age 80 yrs at dewi sant hospital pontypridd
on marriage cert they got married in pontypridd on 1st may 1916 she was age 17yrs if that is correct she was born in 1899 not 1898 as we was led to believe she was born on july the 11th no profession on cert her father john jones miner.
I have tried our local library no luck the only thing the lady in the library could tell me that in 1918 at 23 tylacelyn rd (under) which i take to be a under house (rooms) there live a henry jones elizabeth jones and john jones which we assume is catherines father,elizabeth was born 1895 not sure when thomas was born maybe 1893.

My hubby seems to think they came from cardigan area he is not really sure
Thanks very much Patricia
forgot to say witnesses Thomas+Elizabeth Curtis elizabeth was her sister

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 June 13 07:34 BST (UK) »
thanks for your reply on her death cert she died on 1st april 1979age 80 yrs at dewi sant hospital pontypridd
on marriage cert they got married in pontypridd on 1st may 1916 she was age 17yrs if that is correct she was born in 1899 not 1898 as we was led to believe she was born on july the 11th no profession on cert her father john jones miner.
I have tried our local library no luck the only thing the lady in the library could tell me that in 1918 at 23 tylacelyn rd (under) which i take to be a under house (rooms) there live a henry jones elizabeth jones and john jones which we assume is catherines father,elizabeth was born 1895 not sure when thomas was born maybe 1893.

My hubby seems to think they came from cardigan area he is not really sure
Thanks very much Patricia
Hi Patricia.

If the information about where they were living in 1918, if this comes from the Electoral Register, I don't think Elizabeth would have been mention, the age for this to be entered was 30 for a women, so Elizabeth may be the mother and Henry and an older brother.

Do you have the marriage certificate for Elizabeth, did she have children, do you know who Thomas married, have you found  death or burial record for John, local to where they lived, as there may be a grave with information about both the parents.

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Horton Darlaston.
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Pittaway. Droitwich