Thomas Fradley Wives

[ZoeA]

Hi Crisane - actually I think you have solved the problem for me -  Granny Grainger was not the Jane Agnes Grainger - she was Eliza Ann Grainger/Fradley - mother of Thomas Fradley - his Dad still being Benjamin.   I think the Thomas Fradley and Jane Agnes Grainger are maybe distant relations but not what my Dad initially thought!   Thank you for your help, am pretty sure this is it. 

[crisane]

Yes you've got it!

I just realised that I hadn't posted the death of Benjamin Fradley, the father of your Thomas, 1st husband of Eliza Ann Williams. The age is a little out with the 1891 census but that is no big deal.
Deaths Jun 1/4 1896 
Benjamin   Fradley age 37    Congleton 8a/197   

The Ellen Granger, granddaughter, age 5 who was with William and his parents in 1891 (before he married Eliza) is still with her grandparents in 1901 but is down as their daughter. I wonder if she was william's duaghter and stayed with them after his remarriage?

You will find the birth registrations of Drusilla, Benjamin and Rhoda on FreeBMD along with Edith's and Elizabeth's. Drusilla and Rhoda's you can search using mother's maiden name as they ere registered after 1911

[crisane]

This is Benjamin (father of your Thomas) before he married Eliza Ann Williams. Looks like Eliza and benjamin named one of their boys after Benjamin's brother

1881 RG11 Piece 3536 Folio 91 Page 41
On the boat "Elizabeth" Odd Rode Cheshire
Benjamin Fradley 20 boatman born Stoke on Trent Staffordshire
Joshua Fradley   18 boatman born Stoke on Trent Staffordshire

 

[crisane]

John 18 months and Benjamin 1 month(future father of Thomas) are the children of Benjamin 23 and Ann but the relationship to the head of household should be grandson. I can't see a marriage for Benjamin and Ann? 1855 -1865 on FreeBMD
1861 RG 9 Piece 1938 Folio 41 Page 26
Penkhull Staffordshire
Benjamin Fradley head 65 boatman
Elizabeth Fradley wife 68
Benjamin Fradley son 23 boatman
Ann Fradley dau in law 21
Charles Fradley   14  boatman's boy
John Fradley 18 months son
Benjamin Fradley 1 month son
All born Staffordshire


1871 but Benjamin age 11 not with them
RG10 Piece 3700 Folio 52 Page 28
On canal on boat Newton Middlewich
Benjamin Fradley 32 Captain Stone Staffordshire
Ann Fradley 30 assistant Dunnington Wood Salop
Joshua Fradley   8 Stoke
Elizabeth Fradley 6 Tollend Staffordshire
Sarah Fradley 6 Astley lancashire
Thomas Fradley 2 Not known Cheshire
Mary Ann Fradley 3 Months Middleich Cheshire

I can't find Benjamin born c 1861 in 1871 on either ancestry or FindMyPast

[crisane]

Benjamin snr and Benjamin jnr not at home - off on canal somewhere? But I can't pick them up as yet
1851  HO107 Piece 2006 Folio 17 Page 26
North Street Stoke on Trent
Elizabeth Fradley 56 Married, Stoke
Mary Ann Fradley 24 dau Stoke
Sarah Fradley 16 boatman Stoke
Mary Ann Snape 13 visitor Barsham Staffordshire
Charles Fradley 4 grandson (he is son in 1871) Stoke on Trent
Harriet Fradley   11 months granddaughter Stoke on Trent

Can't find them on 1841

So what we have is Benjamin Fradley born c 1796 Staffordshire married an Elizabeth ? born Staffordshire
Their son Benjamin born c1838 Staffordshire married an Ann ? born c1840 Staffordshire (can't find marriage on FreeBMD
Their son Benjamin born c1861 Stoke on Trent Staffs married Eliza Ann Williams born c1864 Bunbury Cheshire.
Their son Thomas born c1884 married Drucilla Garrett. Their children Edith, Elizabeth, Benjamin, Rhoda and Drucilla
 

[crisane]

If you go to familysearch.org and enter Benjamin Fradley, England and no other details you will get many records for possible births and marriages.

[ZoeA]

Hi Crisane,

This information is amazing thank you for finding it - I passed lots of it on to my Dad, he never knew he had a Great Grandad Benjamin!   And it cleared up who the real Granny Grainger was!     plus all the other relatives that went with them both, I did manage to find two photos one of Elizabeth Fradley Daughter of Benjamin and of her husband.    I have discovered that Fradley information is much easier to find than all the other family names in my Tree - I will check out the familysearch.org for the others too.  Thank you again!  you have been wonderful! 

[crisane]

No worries, I enjoyed the search

[spellweaver]

Re the Fradleys.  I have a John Fradley b 1859 in Wolverhampton, married Eliza Harrison.  I think these must be linked because John Fradley's father, also John is shown as born in Middlewich.  This Fradley family were also canal boatmen (as were the Harrisons)
In 1891 and 1901 John and Eliza are living in Odd Rode, Cheshire.
I have links to both of Eliza's parents, George Harrison and Mary Northwood.
Angela